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Biography

I have wrote poetry for some time though until now it has not really gone too far away from me, bar the odd showing to certain people(s) some in odd setttings.

I have never performed my poetry but would be interested in changing this if only because as "I am probably the least expensive vehicle for my words and poems"; though if performed in bars that sell guinness this could be arguable).

I have worked in creative roles, as a designer in one industry and also worked in the tedium that is middle and upper management..as well as other different fields.

I have had a stormy life, two unrelated primary cancers, lots of ill health and my only daughter died three years ago. I say the last bit as though this is a CV...gawd I despair with myself at times....

If you come to know me my experiences may come through in my writing but I would hope to write on a wide range of subjects; but there are no guarentees.

I am fiercely loyal, principles are everything too me, even when they brings problems upon me.

I deplore racism and daily mail reactionary types. Sexism is something I can accept only when it is self depricating in all honesty. If it is Arh Ohh missus look at the mother-in-law, I think I am best avoided.

I am not anti much bar the things that would offend most sensibilities.

Edit;

Since writing the above I have now performed on the poetry scene in the North West since September 09 and have performed my poetry numerous times at The Bards of New Brighton, The Wirral Ode Show, The Moreton Arms, Riverview- New Brighton, Tales Around The Fire- New Brighton, The Everyman- Liverpool, The Olde Boars Head- Middleton and The Tudor- Wigan.

I was fortunate enough to win the Wirral Ode Show poetry competition in October, to become their 11th annual winner;


Wirral Ode Show poet of the year 2009.


I have met warm, kind, great and supportive people since I have got involved in the poetry scene and my experiences have been almost universally positive.

If you are thinking of dipping your toe in the water and performing your poetry for the first time, then I would recommend doing so and would say- go for it!

And if it happens that you do so at any of the events I listed above and I am there come and say hello :)

Anyway whoever you are welcome to the end of my waffle; I hope you like a poem or two that I put here..

Regards,

Chris








Samples

To be Welsh.

Coal was not cheap tertiary work, It was not a call centre or an unfulfilled promise,
or a competitive quote to office background laughter.

Coal was a vein of rougher richer stuff;

Coal was honest, coal was quiet, resilient, firm and upstanding against the passing years, patiently waiting to be hewn out of the very earth.

Coal was community.

Coal was not a here today gone tomorrow, bright, chattering incessant thing of treachery an headsets and please text me back-me nots. Coal is not relocated to Germany or Japan it is of THIS place, of THIS land, not an invading foreign hand.

The black rock, that stuff that covered generations of men seemed IN the covering to somehow pass on a little of ITs character and instil some of IT in them.

Coal is in the blood and rugby mud, its in the lungs of male voice choirs, it’s in the valleys and down community pubs and up hillsides early in the morn. With the right eye a little black can be seen in the Dragons claw, there is a tad in his tail.

The dark foreboding introverted men of Wales you are coal, and the valleys you are coal, and the castles and crags and green bays you too are of coal.

The silvery stars of this red and green land that sparkle and shimmer bright in the bejewelled evening sky, your set against the darkest cloth where this old countries very sky does itself seem be-darkened by the darkest rock.

To be Welsh is to be of coal.




O fatalistic fortunes (an Ode to Wilfred Owen)

Born of misfortunate circumstance.
shaped by culture beyond your control.
You are nothing more than you were begot,
Designedly out of control.

You think that you made choices,
But you were always in a hole
A patsy of ill disposition, and made to fill this role.

Timing was not yours to choose, the fates they chose you,
You are the sum of choices, but choices not made by you!

You are the proles, the famine-d farmer, the last of the Navaho,
You died a week fore armistice, with a rifles rapid blow.

When or what to that we are born, that we cannot choose
We cannot know life’s outcomes no matter how we muse
Oh we seem to think we have such control; but fate is mans master.
And so before you go off to sleep, consider the life-after.

Proles (means working class- famin-ed farmer- potato farmers, dust bowl farmers, last of Navaho- the most unlucky of all Indians- fate did them..




Spirits New Haven

In the bombed out courtyard of your church,
Where the gutted interior meets desolation and loss,
There, in the absence of human contact and love,
Grows a flower of such understanding fragility.

Ruinous rafters will not heal- burnt they will remain,
While timber and old scorched ruins will forever be,
But beyond the hearts of men, time patiently waits,
As against the odds a most tender thing does grow.

Nature, like love it seems may be pollinated upon the harshest wind,
Grow unbidden and unexpected in the saddest of circumspect soil,
Elegant is this stem, soft and delicate the bowed dew laden petals,
Architecture and structure afforded now by life in mind and ground.

Loves devoted lost features forever shall remain in the minds eye,
Tears wept shall not salt the memories- but like rain nurture,
As even now the church bell that is no more chimes to me,
The old that never left- shelters the stamen unabashed.

In spirits new haven.




The evolution of an inner Kingdom.

You look upon me as though I am a building, or a rock; no different from a mountain or the moon.

To you I am permanence embodied, no different from the oceans or the stars, unchanging as the sun, immutable as the skies through innumerable years.

Old photographs show skin, bones and smiles-- mirrors of our former selves.

But they are NO more “us” than the dim distant images of dead countries ARE like that of modern day nations..

Past countries and past lives;

We know of their existence, accomplishments, failures, loves and LIES; we know of their histories.

No mourning for the PASSING of an inner kingdom,

No mourning for the dead reckoning of a character that we recognise as ourselves as it passes into the pages of the past.

And so;

One cold bright morning a bullet of differing sensibilities MIGHT pierce your consciousness and leave you behind; maybe your wife will be divorced by what you become, maybe you will leave your children to scrabble around- a fatherless lot.

Or maybe your personality will haemorrhage whilst singing PSALMS on a snug orthodox afternoon; leaving behind a BLOODED, BLOTTed and clotted religion; never to be known again and what’s more- never to be missed- an evolutionary trauma.

Or maybe the humble working class “way you think” will be silently and stealthily murdered one subconscious night; and your future self will appear with quasi-middleclass pretensions.

A real life pastiche and a CHEAP SUITED sell-out to all that you have been throughout your life.

No one shall weep for you as the silent changing of the guard sweeps away “how you think” and with it the current definitions of “who you are“.

In future years the person that you have become SHALL look back UPON photographs of your face OF this time, as one would view a strange relation in history;

a person once known but now impossibly misunderstood and lost in the past- a Bolshevik to Tsar.





A Love That Keeps On Giving.


A Summer breeze fluttered,
Your tenderness behind,
While a warm kissing sun,
Brought your eyes into mind.

A faint smell of barley,
brought your smile to my lips,
My phrasing of your name,
brought your sway to my hips.

As a lock of your hair,
aligned your spine to mine,
a taste of honey sweet,
regaled your scent divine.

And dancing twixt the boughs,
leaves and gathered flowers,
the laurels of our past,
pours wine after hours.



All poems are copyright of the originating author. Permission must be obtained before using or performing others' poems.

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Battling Railways

Posted on Thursday 11th March 2010 7:37 pm

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The thoughts of trains still run through here, but ONLY at night,

They HAUNT the ditches that formerly knew nothing BUT track,

As restless trees rustle in fear and darkly disappear,

While IVY clings to former stations, of long forgotten names.

 

 

The ghost of Beeching is nowhere to be found, now,

But a FAINT head of steam can be heard through the years,

Echoing its way down the spines of former lines and closures,

While the WILD woodlands hold their sinews FAST to country gained.

 

As under an arched Victorian brickwork bridge,

A cracked pinned-down blackened engine threatens a hopeless move,

As family seaside journeys of yesteryear silently suggest themselves

through the sallow breeze of NIGHT, and the GRUMBLING of DISTRESSED grass.

 

 

While HIDDEN an unmoved platform remains, under a shadowed lung of moss,

Standing to attention like an old soldier on last legs,

Saluting the bridge under the SOLEMN MOON of MIDNIGHT,

While weakly playing a lamented last post,

To the broken economic dreams of DEAD villages and Ruined Resorts.

 

Nature scared and scarred by the industrial past

clings to the life it has,

Fearing the potential railway renewal schemes.

 

 

And the soul of Britains railways Pre-Beeching, lying Dead,

Or Dying in the fields - Across decades,

Waiting for people that will never arrive,

From lost years,

And inbound trains that never set off,

Waiting,

Waiting,

Waiting for the trains- that will NEVER come.

 

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Rev Two-Sheds

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 23:46

thanks chris - good to see you are still around - on my myspace [ http://www.myspace.com/revetwoshedsmuzak ] the is another sound file called 'Meat 'n' VoTinG sonG' ~ itzabit of laugh I spose - kindest regards - don't dissapera again for too long eh ? gov

 

stefan wilde

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 18:21

Thanks Chris for your all important comment on 'Deluded'-Stef.

 

John Coopey

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 16:11

Chris
Thanks for your comments on NYMR and Houghton Main.
Good to see you back on the site.
Look forward to your future posts.

 

Ann Foxglove

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 15:28

Hi Chris - thanks for your kind comments on Twine and Christian. It's lovely to have you back! xx

 

Rachel Bond

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 14:39

i m not keen on email. only really use if ive got a lot of info to get accross...im a bit old fashioned and like to use the phone even though that seems to be regarded as stalk like behaviour these days amongst youth. people under 25 seem distraught if I suggest actually calling...but then maybe I should stop being an old perv and leave them alone..haha

 

Rachel Bond

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 14:18

hey chris...wol chat sucks...
Thanks for the comments you left on 'Lindsay'. Do you think the German bit at end works...or pretensious? I like it. I like what its english translation but ill be fucked if im going to be able to say it!
you coming to wigan thurs?

 

Paul

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 13:40

Thanks for your comment on 'Daredevil Divers' much appreciated. It's one of a series commenting on the sideshows they had at fun fairs in the past (can just about remember them) and I thought of being a witness.
Yes, some freaks but also people with some unusual skills, like these divers.

Nice to see you back Chris!

 

David Cooke

Wed 10th Mar 2010 13:21

Hi Chris Thanks for leaving a comment on my boxing poem. Glad you like it. I must say your poems look very interesting and you seem to be very prolific. A lot to take in! I'm glad you're now performing them. I've started reading at the Poets' Cafe in Reading this year and it's great to have some sense of an audience, rather than just letting the dust settle on them in a drawer!

 

hatta

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Wed 10th Mar 2010 11:56

Hello Chris, massive thanks for your generous, lovely comments. Ever so glad you enjoyed Mrs Smythe's garden. I must admit I am in awe of your poetry's range and the meticulousness and perception you bring to bear on relationships -- with the inner self, lover, and land. Terrific!

 

John Coopey

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Thu 25th Feb 2010 11:15

Chris
Not seen you comment for a day or two. I hope you stay with it. You have my support. Keep posting.

 

Rev Two-Sheds

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Mon 22nd Feb 2010 21:49

hey boss don't back off too far eh?... your words and your stance are really important, a lot more than you may realise... I spread myself thin and often write too much to do anything else [inc sites etc. unless i binge on 'em]... if you do drift off for a while just make sure to keep the quink flowing matey.
with kindest regards
R2$
ps i read above here 'bout the fag quit conundrum... if I can find it I'll post up one about that for the crack - it may not alter your view to walk away for a while but maybe it'll raise a smile... toodle pip

 

winston plowes

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Mon 22nd Feb 2010 21:38

Hi Chris, Take a break by all means. Then remember. all the positive and encouraging remark from us all. Then come back... Win

 

Rachel Bond

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Mon 22nd Feb 2010 00:02

hey Chris. I dont know what any of this talk is of you leaving, but as you are one of my favourite poets of this scene I dont want to see you go anywhere unless it is to the bar to get me a drink...im looking forward to your next spot and hope to see you at Wigan.(p.s. JA can Jack his Ass)

 

Gus Jonsson

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Sun 21st Feb 2010 08:47

Chris,
You must not even contemplate for one moment the 'Walking Away’ from WOL.

We are all poets glorious... not Politian’s...or in JA case a born again Prussian officer..

we are Poets.. ‘Irritating’ is allowed ...down right ‘Wrong’ is allowed ... even Gender Blasting... its allowed ... we are poets!!!

. I have only had the pleasure of meeting you twice..

And that is not nearly enough..

Chris please give me a call or an email...

All the support in the world

Gus x

 

Martin Nelson

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Sun 21st Feb 2010 00:47

Hi Chris,

Just wanted to congratulate you on a great reading at the Little Theatre tonight....and some absolutely fabulous anecdotes...hope to see you soon....!

 

Cate Greenlees

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Thu 18th Feb 2010 11:37

Hi Chris, thanks for your lovely and detailed comment on Taj. This poem means so much to me , its a reminder of a great experience I`ll never forget. I enjoyed reading it last Thursday, and if I got only a fraction of the wonder over to my audience then I`ll be happy!
Cate xx

 

Nichola Burrows

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Thu 18th Feb 2010 08:57

Hi Chris, good to be back. Hope your well, lots of new faces I see.xx

 

Ann Foxglove

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Sun 14th Feb 2010 19:49

Hi Chris. The unfolding story of your poem about your daughter has moved me, and I feel so sorry that it has made you feel you shouldn't have posted the poem. As you know, some of my poems are about the sudden death of my partner. (I feel sure that to lose a child must be far more devastating.) And I have felt, when I've posted poems about Murray that I hope I'm not appearing to "cash-in" on my grief. I think that is what any sensitive person might fear, but I also think it is part of healing and that WOL, on the whole, is somewhere that it is safe to let it out. But never feel bad for letting others see your grief. You obviously had to write that poem, and needed to share it. I feel that after two years (for me losing Murray) my friends maybe see me getting on with my life and don't realise that I still cry on many days. And I don't want to still be talking to them about it. And so writing on WOL helps me. There is a poem I may post soon which refers obliquely to Murray's heart attack, sometimes I don't think I should post it but I probably will. I think it's how we get through. But I can understand that congratulations on your poem are not what you want. Feel free to delete this comment when you've read it. xx

 

Isobel

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Sun 14th Feb 2010 19:45

Not idiotic at all. Many of us post deeply personal poetry from time to time - it is a difficult one - often our 'best' work is the personal stuff cos it makes other feel and for me poetry is all about sharing emotions and sometimes you want to share that part of yourself. If every poem you wrote was personal then I would think differently - but your poetry is incredibly diverse. I seem to be rabbiting - hope you understand what I'm saying. Isobel x

 

Isobel

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Sun 14th Feb 2010 10:02

Don't quite know what to say Chris - except that I'm sorry WOLOP and its echoes should be the cause of any suffering to you.I'm sure John's comment was made without remembering the poem content and with no intention of causing hurt. Your poem reached out to very many, including John, who voted for it. If I could do anything to take away or lessen your pain, I would - as would all of us. Life can be so fucking shit.
Take care - and I mean that.
Isobel x

 

Isobel

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Tue 9th Feb 2010 19:31

Hi Chris. Have decided to duck out of Wednesday, though I was sorely tempted. Have so much on personally this week, on top of the poetry gigs. Also have a stinking bad back (too much housework in preparation for Steve - I'm just not used to it!)I'm hoping to be fresh as a daisy for Thursday. Am recording 'the' poem on Thursday so should have it posted by late afternoon. Glad you liked it - it took me bloody ages! See you soon. Enjoy Liver poetry. Isobel x

 

Star Garter

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Tue 9th Feb 2010 19:00

Thank you very much for your comments on my blogs, I value them very much. I'm glad you don't take them at face value.

Just so you know, I value your work.

 

Janet Ramsden

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Tue 9th Feb 2010 18:59

Hi Chris,
I had a good run of visiting various venues last year, some of them on the Wirral. Like all good things, they have a tendency to come to an end and I work some evenings.
I thought about adding audio on the site but wouldn't have a clue where to begin.

Maybe i'll see you at Wigan soon but i definitely will not be there this month. Thanks for the thanks. I read most of your entries on wol.

Janet.x

 

Ann Foxglove

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Tue 9th Feb 2010 18:03

Thanks for commenting on Avocado. It is funny the things that occur to you (me) in these circumstances. At first it is the huge things, then piles of little things. I remember suddenly thinking "I suppose I probably won't make custard again". Sounds daft, but I haven't. Women alone do not make custard! (Could be the title of another poem!)

 

Ann Foxglove

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Mon 8th Feb 2010 17:23

Hi Chris - just to say I'm glad your poem was appreciated and I do understand it must make you feel odd to "win" when the poem is so very personal and sad. I'm sure it meant a lot to people because it is a stunning poem and because you are loved. Sorry if I sound too "touchyfeeely".

 

Star Garter

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Sun 7th Feb 2010 10:34

You big div!
I meant comment on my blogs, not comment on what I've commented on your blog!
hehe.

Hope you are well.

 

Star Garter

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Sat 6th Feb 2010 23:55

ANy chance of you commenting on my latest blogs?

 

stefan wilde

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Fri 5th Feb 2010 09:48

A very good morning to you Chris.Re.my poem'Their flame shall burn on'-you have done me proud sir! I cannot still believe how that terrible part of recent history was allowed to have taken part.We shall be forever shamed.Thanks Chris-please do keep the inspirations coming in your wonderful writing.-Stefan

 

John Coopey

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Mon 1st Feb 2010 21:25

Thanks for the kind comments, Chris. Race you to a poem about enjambment!

 

garside

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Mon 1st Feb 2010 20:14

HI Chris

thanks again for your time and comment

steve x

 

Isobel

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Wed 27th Jan 2010 16:33

Yes - Chris, I'm hoping to come to the Bards on Monday - not sure what on earth I'll read - my latest is far from being ready. Steve Mellor should be coming too - we are going to do the last leg of the journey together. I think Dave is also planning to go. We should be a merry crew - I am looking forward to it!
See you soon. Isobel x

 

Ann Foxglove

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Mon 25th Jan 2010 08:08

Thanks for your comments on Swan's Down. Your comments mean a lot to me! You are right of course. Animals often appear in my poems, I identify with them and always have, but this poem is about grief. It's easier maybe to write about it by using an animal to represent the emotion or you yourself. Not expressing myself very well here, poem says it, and I've only just got up!! xx

 

Steve Mellor

Sun 24th Jan 2010 20:04

Hi Chris
Based on an observation in Huddersfield last week.
I suppose Baby Bobbies does have a child-like rhythm and style to it. Very perceptive.Maybe it's me going into my dotage.
Many, many thanks, and hopefully see you in a fortnight.

 

Ann Foxglove

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Fri 22nd Jan 2010 17:48

Just to say I found your poem Millie really touching. Sounds like it's an anniversary maybe, they are hard, Writing seems to help, I find anyway. Thanks for sharing your beautiful poem. xx

 

spencer

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Wed 20th Jan 2010 15:18

chris i am having a look for your war comments ,m can you send me a link , I am a complete muppet

 

Thaumaturgically Charged

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Tue 19th Jan 2010 19:59

Hi Chris I am using Firefox right now and I don't see an audio option.
Thanks TC
yes please post the wording.

 

Ann Foxglove

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Tue 19th Jan 2010 19:58

Hi Chris - just to put your mind a rest (sorry to butt in!) but your audio is working OK. xx

 

Steve Regan

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Mon 18th Jan 2010 00:23

Chris, hope you feelin better. I'd love you to come to the next LIVERpoetry night at the Pilgrim pub, central Liverpool, on Wed 10 Feb. the theme for the night is "sex and love". I'd love you to dress up as your WOL profile pic for performance!

 

Noetic Fret

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Sun 17th Jan 2010 22:03

Hi chris, you set the scene very well, and noone could argue that. i for one as an ex soldier was overcome, and would swear that you had been there. all credit to you. couple of pointers though, most soldeirs dont like being referred to as squaddies, at least thats how it was in my day. but yeah, you set the scene very well indeed. as regards a pint, i would love to. in the summer months this may be possible, but for now my wife is in her last three months of pregnancy, and i have to stay close by. if you forward your contact details, i will try and hook up with yourself and pete crompton at a suitable place during summer or autumn. he is from southport and im sure he would be only to glad to meet you.

stay well and keep writing

rgds

mike

 

kealan coady

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Sat 16th Jan 2010 15:40

thank you very much for taking the time to really try understand what i was trying to say.

 

Pete Crompton

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Sat 16th Jan 2010 12:52

really enjoyed Roadside Patrol mate

 

neil gardiner

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Fri 15th Jan 2010 13:15

Hi Chris. Thanks a lot for you post. Hope you are well and that life is good. Like your stuff. Still unpacking it. Yours Neil

 

Steve Regan

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Thu 14th Jan 2010 16:52

Get well soon, mate!

 

chris stevenson

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Sun 10th Jan 2010 15:41

hello chris..thanks for the in-depth comment on 'finale', the words came out very quickly and so are true to my feelings at the time...just checked..I wrote it on 27/11/09 just after I clicked over from 59 to 60...so I wouldn't edit it anyway...if nothing else, age forces the truth onto the page, the gravedigger has already taken his spade from the shed...

 

winston plowes

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Sun 10th Jan 2010 07:36

Hi there Chris...thanks for the constructive comments left on 'Browns Convention'. the poem has been edited and I have also added some commentary on the blog if you care to revisit. Win :-)

 

Ann Foxglove

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Fri 8th Jan 2010 22:32

Thanks for your comment on my Warm me Twice poem, though I don't understand your almost apology regarding some comment made on a previous blogg. Maybe you are muddling me up with someone else? But yes, it came from the heart, as I was sawing up wood for my rayburn this morning. Wrote it in 5 minutes, like all my better poems! And it is about someone dear to me who I have lost. So, thank you. x

 

Isobel

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Fri 8th Jan 2010 21:16

Thanks for your comment re last night Chris. Yes - reading that poem always gives me a total buzz cos I'm so passionate about what I feel in it and because it is easy for the audience to grasp, they are right there with me. Wish I had a hundred like that - would be able to read it more often - will have to find new venues where no-one knows me! It was a very enjoyable night. x

 

Francine Louis

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Fri 8th Jan 2010 03:20

Thank you Chris for taking the time to read and comment on my poem
'I Thought...'
You are so very right...
Not always the ones you would expect to be there in time of need...
And that is exactly how I felt when I wrote it.

 

spencer

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Thu 7th Jan 2010 19:40

Chris,
A very good and thoughtful commentary on my piece. Please let me know when you blog your piece on war.

 

Rev Two-Sheds

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Sun 3rd Jan 2010 08:41

weh hey there Chris - many hanks for the wishes there boss & as here returned, my best wishes to 'n' all you for fab new year

R2$

 

Isobel

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Sat 2nd Jan 2010 11:42

Happy New Year Chris! Thanks for your visit to my profile - will have to perform Alfie for you on Thursday - am going to venture out into the dark realms of Liverpool.... Just as well that I'll have a couple of minders! Look forward to seeing you there. x

 

Noetic Fret

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Wed 30th Dec 2009 21:23

Hi Chris, thank you for commenting on Sitrep. All feedback is most welcome. You have got the message of the poem and its feeling right. it is damned difficult coming to terms with an awful lot of the military service, and because of the way i was trained and the places i went to it will always stay with me and yes, it is paradoxical in my mind. There are days, you just loathe that which you yearn to get back to. and the rage goes unleashed. Fight of flight will always stay with me i suppose. and that can be a harshness in itself. I have left a comment on the poem, to clarify the army speak it contains. Thank you so much once again for commenting, and with conviction i say your work is fantastic.

Nice one chris.
all your comments mean a lot to me.

Mike

PS, have a good one tomorrow, and may 2010 be a fantastic year for you.

rgds

Michael

 

JEFF.W

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Wed 30th Dec 2009 18:01

hi there chris,
thanks for your comments on the "all about you.." poem much appreciated keep up the great work :)

 

Tommy Carroll

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Sun 20th Dec 2009 15:01

Thank you Chris.

 

Martin Nelson

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Sat 19th Dec 2009 01:29

Hello Chris, the Launch IS on the gig guide along with the post-code...http://writeoutloud.net/public/eventview.php?day=19&month=12&year=2009&eventID=4062

It'd be great to see you there.....if I don't enjoy yourself over the 'holiday' period.

 

Dogstails

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Thu 17th Dec 2009 19:39

Hello,
appreciate your insight on Baby P..
Glad that you saw the positive message, and that you had a good childhood too. I was,nt sure about putting it out because of it being a sensitive matter.
Thanks again !

 

Chris Co

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Tue 15th Dec 2009 20:16

The make-up is reserved for childrens parties and 'adult services' with snacks and smacks included respectively....there's murder if you get the events mixed up and do things the wrong way round. Tee Hee.

With trusty Tomtom I shall endeavor to get to the Howcroft on Sunday...Bolton isn't near the coast so I should be safe.

Hopefully have a nice night.


 

Cate Greenlees

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Tue 15th Dec 2009 19:07

Hi Chris, thanks! Great to see and hear you last Thursday. As I said in the review that disappeared as soon as it went up, I thought you were one of the black and white minstrels until I saw you in the flesh!! lol
Cate xx

 

Isobel

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Tue 15th Dec 2009 17:06

Glad you enjoyed it Chris. We are a musical family and Christmas always brings about the desire to sing in us. Hope to see you at the Howcroft on Sunday.x

 

Steve Mellor

Sat 12th Dec 2009 16:50

Chris
If you'd like to drop me a line:-
stephen.mellor4@googlemail.com

You mentioned at The Tudor, about listening to Complicit, but I'm not sure where our paths may cross. I'm not sure if it's the done thing, but I read it there at the end of October (maybe no-one listened though). What are your plans? Have a think, and see if we can find neutral territory. I'm not averse to Howcroft - I thought it a nice cosy atmosphere, but it's just the potential repetition
Steve

 

Paul (Admin)

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Sat 12th Dec 2009 13:35

Thanks for the comment - much a ppreciated from a poet of your caliber

 

Steve Regan

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Sat 12th Dec 2009 12:15

Hi Chris, sorry I didn't get much time to talk to you at Wigan the otehr night (MCing a rowdy venue doesn't allow much time for social chats). I haven' yet got your moby number so I can't give you the usual text alert about the Bards. I do hope you will come. It's this Monday (14) December, Magazine pub, from 8pm. PS. Specially for thee, I'm gonna read New Brighton Lament.

 

Malpoet

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Tue 8th Dec 2009 19:28

Thanks Chris you are very kind. Riverview was a good night wasn't it?

Poetry on the Wirral is going very well at the moment.

 

John Togher

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Tue 8th Dec 2009 17:53

Will do, Chris.

 

Dogstails

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Sat 5th Dec 2009 18:00

Hello
thanks for making a comment (baby P) , i was,nt sure about posting it and it needs tidying up, but i,m glad you could see the positive message in it. I appreciate the insight aswell, and i,m glad you had a good childhood.

 

DG

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Tue 1st Dec 2009 18:02

Hi Chris,

I can't really put that poem from last night on here at the moment because it's one of the one's in my latest book, and I'm not sure that the publisher would look on it. Glad you enjoyed it though and it'll probably get another outing at the next Unsung night in a few days time.

Derm

 

Greg Freeman

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Sat 28th Nov 2009 09:18

Chris, thanks so much for having a look at Newton Ferrers. Its geography does make it an intriguing place, I think. I had the idea at one time of writing a murder mystery set there, but only three pages - plus this little poem - came of it. Story of my life!

 

Steve Smith

Wed 25th Nov 2009 22:52

Thanks for your comment Chris...I appreciate it. I'll make a comment on what we discussed and I will hope to see you on the true Monday (coming)
Like yr diect unadorned seing of the thorny issue in the poem 'Who are we?'
quote Chartists " Hearts that have the courage man, to make that future now!"
Steve Smith

 

Augusta Darling

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Tue 24th Nov 2009 19:32

Dear Chris, You are indeed both kind and generous in word and spirit not to mention gallant, an eloquent gentleman.

Thank you so much for your warm and encouraging support.

Yours forever in poetry

Augusta x

 

Tommy Carroll

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Tue 24th Nov 2009 17:22

Chris ty also... I too (as we all are) are subject to the same universal forces!

 

Steve Mellor

Tue 24th Nov 2009 14:23

Hi Chris
Your comments are much appreciated. As I told you at Middleton, I tend to stay below the parapet, not feeling qualified to comment/critique.
Hopefully our paths will cross in the near future, and we can have a proper natter.
Steve

 

John Darwin

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Mon 23rd Nov 2009 16:14

Hi Chris, I enjoyed your reading of To be Welsh last week, it is close to my heart.

cheers
John

 

Thaumaturgically Charged

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Mon 23rd Nov 2009 03:34

Hi Chris
first of all thank you for your observations on my latest poem, I have been a long standing fan of Lord of the Rings, and enjoy reading literature which peeps through the veil into other possible realms of exsistence.
I found the historical note on you tea related poem to be quite fascinating. With reference to spending to fill the gap inside, that particualr poem in my opinion was crafted such as to bring this phenomena to conciousness in sharp relief. A disturbingly good piece.
Kind Regards
George (my real name)

 

Chris Co

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Mon 23rd Nov 2009 01:14

Hi Jane,

Erm I think that link does work..If you cut and paste that link into your address and bar go 4 comments down from the top you should see the explanation.

The poem itself is in the link below (I took your advice on the alteration of the title- thx)

http://www.writeoutloud.net/public/blogentry.php?blogentryid=6731

Hopefully that works.

Thx for the comments Jane and I'm glad you liked 'A love that keeps giving'; it was a little labour of love to bring that one to fruition.

I'll try and write more positive poems as time goes on with what you have said in mind and also a wish to be a little more balanced in my output.

I've always been a blues, country and western and folk man which often lends itself to sad things and I guess my own experiences take me down that route often enough to.

So yes I will try and see if I can't write on some more neutral and positive subjects in the comming months (Tea is a neutralish poem).

(A back log of darker material has already been written so that will come out first..but after that :).

Thx for taking the time out to read my stuff.

I hope to see more unexpected gems like Horse Power from you...these images were so good and very enjoyable- I have the poem tucked away with other favourites to read to myself..

 

jane wilcock

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Sun 22nd Nov 2009 15:52

sorry to be a pain but the link doesn't lead me to your explanation . Can you remember the title of the discussion thread as a general search hasn't helped? In my mind it was playground. Please delete this comment as its not one although as a comment can you change the wrote to written on your biography third word. best jane

 

jane wilcock

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Sat 21st Nov 2009 18:55

Hi Chris, thanks for reading Horse Power and I have enjoyed Larkins "At Grass", its a perfect poem and in general subject can see the cross- memories slipping in there. Mine's been written to keep Apple Power company. I wonder if you still have the explanation for Spider? If you remember I was being whisked off when I wanted to think about it and never got to download your explanation. Dont worry if its too much of a pain to reexplain, I wont take it all personally but if you have a moment I'd be pleased....I also enoy reading "A Love That Keeps Giving". How wonderful.I actually enjoy all your poems but find myself rereading the more optomistic ones. I hope that doesn't set me up for a set down but I am more likely to revisit the optomistic and happier side of life when reading. Keep writing, Jane

 

Chris Co

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Tue 17th Nov 2009 21:36

Actually that thought made me laugh too, the bit about me I mean. hehe

 

Isobel

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Tue 17th Nov 2009 20:25

Well that told me then! I won't argue with you - I do so love an assertive man - tee hee....

 

Chris Co

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Tue 17th Nov 2009 19:59

I am moved or intellectually stimulated by all different types of poetry and the same is true with all forms of art.

What I don't do personally is place any one idea, form or structure or indeed lack of structure above that of another.

I love beauty in structure and form and I love Jazz on the page and everything in-between.

At the end of the day (terrible cliche I know) the only thing that matters is the words and what they convey.

In that sense there is only two types of poetry regardless of form;

There is good poetry and there is bad poetry.

So in response to what you said....

No it's not merely the sentiment or sensibility that I appreciated in your poem, though that is an inseparable element of the inherent quality and beauty of the poem- it's truisms without negative ISMs.

I very much like and rate it as a poem.

I know there are lots and lots of good poems on the site and beauty, intelligence, sensations and ideas etc found in all their guises.

But none of that alters the fact that I like these words that you wrote.

I rate what you wrote here highly- as a poem.

So just accept it :)









 

Isobel

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Tue 17th Nov 2009 17:24

I feel deeply honoured by your comment Chris - there is some brilliant stuff on this site, if you look closely. I think it is the sentiments you like more than anything. You are maybe like me - you need to be moved by sentiment more than structure or sophisticated imagery. Our comments seem to have crossed - mine is just below yours under the poem. Thanks again.

 

winston plowes

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Tue 17th Nov 2009 14:05

Hi Chris, Thanks for the comments on my last two. there was a time when the content of Ghazal (Dad) would be too concentrated for me too, but time has softened things. Thanks again Win. x

 

Thaumaturgically Charged

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Mon 16th Nov 2009 17:44

Ah Mr Chris Co ;-) Thank you for your review, very astute, especially as derived from a such a short poem. If I had to label myself I would consider myself to be a 'Metaphysical Poet', I have read your profile, your works are profound we are going to get on well ;-)) I like your Avatar too suitably enigmatic ;-)

 

Isobel

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Mon 16th Nov 2009 13:44

I'm not terribly good at putting myself into someone else's shoes Chris - tend to write from my own experiences - that's what inspires me - emotions....I admire people who can imagine other mindsets though.
For me home is about the people - nothing else - just the people. Probably would never have chosen Wigan as my resting place - but love all the people who reside here. Moving around a lot is spiritually exhausting. You can only do it so many times without losing the will to connect and form roots. I'm glad you understand and see where I'm coming from. xx

 

Chris Co

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Mon 16th Nov 2009 11:57

Your welcome Isobel.

By the way I didn't think the poem was of a holiday; I thought it was a return from emigration.

But I thought it's connection to the reader would be imprinted via the much smaller common snippet of the same experience- long haul flight holiday return.

What I couldn't of known of course was that it was in part autobiographical. I have made the mistake in the past of assuming poems were autobiographical only to get it very wrong, so I am trying to think on poems as not being about the person writing them now unless told otherwise.

Excellent poem Isobel.

I hope 'home' whether that be general people, loved ones, memories,familar streets, English culture, Coronation Street, work etc or a combination of all these and more.......

I hope whatever you define 'home' that to be sits comfortably with you.

P.S

I once moved eight times in 5 years- up and down the country with work.

Nothing international but it was a little disheartening to come to understand a place and feel comfortable with people only to have to up and leave again.

I got to the point where upon moving all in to the new house the first thing that had to be done no matter what was;

Plugging the TV in and putting an indoor aerial on it and tuning into Eastenders or Coronation street.

Their homes never changed as mine did, so I could feel like home in and amongst all the boxes and unpacket stuff even if it was just for half an hour in a place that made me feel like I didn' t know myself.

Funny and sad really.





 

Isobel

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Mon 16th Nov 2009 07:12

Thanks for your comment on my latest Chris - you always take such effort to be thorough - never throw away comments. It was a very real poem - based on my life experience - not a holiday - though you can come back from some holidays feeling like that! Glad it worked for you.
x

 

Chris Co

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Sun 15th Nov 2009 18:42

Thanks Sarah and Stevie- thx a lot- appreciate you putting the poems up.

For the comments on my bit Stevie- also appreciated- Thx.

Cheers for the comment Isobel, the Welsh poem won (Wirral Ode Show slam- poet of the year-2009).

Though I am not sure how.

Alfie- yes great performace and excellent.

Hey Mary,

Glad you like the Welsh poem.

Clowns are intriuging for me, the paint can cover yet expose darker feelings- the sadness of a clown is a real paradox.

I'd be interested to see the your husband's painting :)

It was my first visit to the Tudor, raucous and enjoyable...a unique atmosphere for the right material.

I want to go next month, so maybe I will get to say hello to you and your husband.

Regards

 

Stevie Turner

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Sun 15th Nov 2009 00:50

Thanks Chris, really enjoyed your performance and poetry in Wigan on Thursday - I've added the first two poems you mentioned to the site.

 

Mary Braithwaite

Sun 15th Nov 2009 00:07

I've just checked and the Clown painting isn't on file, may take me a while to scan and upload.

 

Mary Braithwaite

Sat 14th Nov 2009 23:58

I tried to get to the Tudor this week but I needed help to get there. I may be able to get to the next one.

 

Mary Braithwaite

Sat 14th Nov 2009 23:57

I like the bit about Wales is made of coal.
My husband , Mike has painted a SAD CLOWN, I'll try and post it on here for you. It won best in show at the village show.

 

Isobel

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Sat 14th Nov 2009 18:25

Thanks for your lovely comments on Alfie Chris. Yes - it is my favourite and I have never blogged it. I will take you up on the suggestion when I hit one of those hideous dry spells which I do very often! I enjoyed your spot at the Tudor - the coal poem is superb - well worthy of winning whatever it was you won. xx

 

Sarah Cowther

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Sat 14th Nov 2009 14:29

Chris, I have added the poem I read on Saturday at the Tudor to my profile.

 

Sarah Cowther

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Sat 14th Nov 2009 14:16

Thanks for your comment about my poetry. I'm glad you didn't drop your pint!

 

Dave Bradley

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Fri 13th Nov 2009 18:21

Chris

Thank you for your very kind and unexpected comments on Kneeling. Yes by all means, copy it for yourself. I guess we all presume that can happen with anything posted here.

thanks again.

Dave

 

Isobel

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Fri 13th Nov 2009 18:09

Hi Chris - the background music for 'A Song Not For Guy' comes from Elton John's 'A Song for Guy'. He wrote the song, which was originally just piano music, I think, in memory of a young messenger boy called Guy who worked at the recording studio and was knocked over and killed whilst doing his job. I guess knowing the background to the song helps to understand the poem. Elton later added the words 'Life isn't everything'. The poem turns those words on their head - cos at the end of the day it probably is and there is something to be said for writing a poem for the living. Having said that I love Elton's song, lyrics and piano music - totally brilliant. My little ones also can't get the lyrics out of their head and wander round singing it - wrongly of course - last month it was 'sending out an SOS' and 'only love can love can keep us together' by Police - the actual lyrics were 'only hope can keep us together' but I like to screw everyone's lyrics up...

 

Chris Co

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Fri 13th Nov 2009 14:25

Glad you liked that poem Dave, you can find it at the link below;

http://www.writeoutloud.net/public/blogentry.php?blogentryid=6681

I wasn't on the website back when you wrote 'kneeling' and although I went back through the site I made a mistake and didn't spot it.

I wasn't being kind regarding my comments though, I was just doing what the guy on catchphrase used to tell contestants. A case of 'say what you see'.

It's a great poem.

Hey Stephen- no worries about the other night...I've mailed you and waffled a bit as I have a tendency to do-

Some of which is about the event at the Stork pub in Birkenhead next Thursday.

 

Dave Bradley

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Fri 13th Nov 2009 08:00

Hi Chris

thanks for your kind comment on Kneeling which I blogged on 26th June. It's difficult finding stuff isn't it. I thought yours about Coal was the best poem of the night yesterday at the Tudor, but am having similar trouble - did you blog it?

 

Steve Smith

Thu 12th Nov 2009 16:21

Dear Chris,
Thanks for the pint the other night, I am sorry to have gone but I had to meet some friends. I was interested in youy comments on T.S.Eliot on the discussion page - they are refreshing.I can't find them now!!!Can you send me the full text?
Steve Smith
stephensmithster@gmail.com

 

Chris Co

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Mon 9th Nov 2009 13:39

It's a very good poem Cynthia, so it wasn't in the least bit difficult to see something good in its composition....

In particular I really liked the second stanza and the first line of the third.

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But - families fractured -
Communities convulsed -
Countries disintegrated.

Upon great tables in small rooms
Politics scissored flags - land - people -
And stitched the scraps into a new design.

The flags flapped smartly as flags must do.
Unquote

I feel you're speaking of sad realities, the fundamental outcomes and realpolitik price paid by ordinary people for the social experiments made in the creation and destruction of countries and peoples.

The rooms you have spoken of have housed decision makers like (and in no given order) Radovan Karadzic, Slobodan Milosevic, Nikolai Ceausescu, Kim Jong il, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabi, Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler, King Leopold II etc etc etc

I also liked the line below which I felt was very strong;

Fate had forged shackles with no key.

I think your Husband has it right.


Hey Pete,

Yea I really liked your bear poem....thematically I am very interested in memories that recur as shards/splinters of the past.

Memories that come about via differing senses and experiences; taste, touch, rain, phrasing words, hearing an old song etc etc

In fact a lot of my poems have reflected this fascination.

"wonder when he lost the orange eye".

I liked that too- excellent.

 

Pete Crompton

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Mon 9th Nov 2009 11:13

Hey Chris, glad you liked the 'Bear' poem, thanks so much for your comments, lots to discuss, i may post on the poem thread.

 

Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 7th Nov 2009 14:09

You are quite right about the title of my most recent blog. I hesitated for the very reason you took up, but finally decided to change the title as The Kiss might even be copy-righted. It's hard to judge the reading/commenting public. I took a chance with The Seal as a title and a poem, and apparently it bombed in the general venue.
I really appreciate that you saw something in it. Its composition is a departure for me, an expression that just swelled out unbidden. My husband thinks it's one of the best things I've ever done.

 

Chris Co

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Sun 1st Nov 2009 17:03

Oh no I would never do that.

When my laptop has been left for a bit the screen goes off, combine that with the memory of a fish- which I have and :(

It looks like I am ignorantly ignoring anyone who clicks chat; when really I am just ignorant in the unaware sense and probably making a cup of tea or watching the tele.

Doh!

speak soon yea?

 

Rachel Bond

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Sun 1st Nov 2009 15:56

no problem. i love it when a man ignores me cos hes watching the football...

 

michael shepherd

Sat 31st Oct 2009 16:05

Chris, I wrote a poem
to your liver and to you :
with entrails so at bloody stake,
my kidney sends good wishes too..

 

Chris Co

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Fri 30th Oct 2009 19:19

Thanks Steve...A bit shocking to say the least...

Could you email me on chrisCo@hushmail.com so I can give you the number.

I just feel a little uncomfortable handing out phone numbers over the world wide web.

Bard alerts aside...you can txt or phone anytime.

 

Steve Regan

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Fri 30th Oct 2009 12:07

CHRIS, you were a VERY worthy winner of the Wirral Ode Show competition last night. You read 'To Be Welsh' beautifully, with appropriately restrained and dignified emotion in your voice.

Hope you got home from Birkenhead all right.

See ye at the next Bards (Mon 9 November) hopefully. Could you send me your moby number ... for Bards text alerts.

 

Steve Regan

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Wed 28th Oct 2009 16:10

CHRIS CO, ta very much for your cultural analysis on my poem Brassiere. Truly we are the Carry On fillum generation!

And it was great to talk to you, and set the poetic world to rights, the other night at the opening of Moreton Live Poetry open-mic. See you at next BARDS hopefully.

 

Rachel Bond

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Tue 27th Oct 2009 18:23

Chris. your comments were much appreciated as I was surprised to find that someone understood some of the origins of this poem. So very close to the situation. It encourages me as I must have managed to convey a scene with clarity from a very foggy time.
Your poems are all rubbish (you know im only messing. Ive just never been accused of being too kind before.)
Rachel

 

Chris Co

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Tue 27th Oct 2009 16:26

Yea it was a good night Mr malpoet, be well and hopefully chat over a poem sometime in the not too distant future.

Hey Steve Oops...I thought I gave you an email address? Obviously not..my error, probably because of these poetry nights and being tired....sorry about that.

Yea you can reach me at;

chrisco@hushmail.com

And then hopefully we can make arrangements.

 

Malpoet

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Tue 27th Oct 2009 13:52

Thanks for your kind comments Chris. It was good to meet you last night. I hope you enjoyed the evening and look forward to seeing you again.

 

garside

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Tue 27th Oct 2009 08:13

Hi Chris

do you have an email addy?

steve

 

Chris Co

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Tue 27th Oct 2009 02:32

I did very much enjoy the night Paul's (in the plural) thx.

In part that was due to you (Mr Broadhurst) and your good lady wife- you helped make me feel welcome in a venue that was very new to me- cheers :)

I left a little note to that effect on your profile.

I really enjoyed your poems and performaces on the mike too.

I'd love to read your first poem if you put it on the site...oh and I like the poem "Someone’s son" as well...great stuff.

Hey Paul (Mr Blackburn?), nice to meet you too.

You helped me understand the nature of the site when I first came here so I appreciated that (one hiccup aside and behind me I am getting the hang of things and loving the site :).

Middleton was my first time in front of a microphone and only my second time reading poetry or in fact anything in front of an audience.

I'm a bit shocked by your kind comments..Thanks very much for the encouragment.

I hope you realise though Paul that you scared the b-Jeezus out of me with Dr Curio (spelling?).

Your laughter at the end of the poem had jumping out of my own skin.

It remined me of being allowed to stay up past my bedtime as a child and watch old balck and white films like The Cat with Karloff and Lugosi......chillingly good :)

 

Paul (Admin)

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Mon 26th Oct 2009 19:29

Nice to meet you Chris. I don't know if you have performed before, but I thought you came across as a pro - with gravitas and very assured. Well done!

 

Paul Broadhurst

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Mon 26th Oct 2009 18:56

Hi Chris

Hope you enjoyed your trip up to Middleton,my wife and I enjoyed your work,unfortunately had to get off so could not have a longer chat,hope you keep well

All the best Paul Broadhurst

 

Chris Co

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Mon 26th Oct 2009 18:54

Jeff, Tommy- good poems :)

 

Tommy Carroll

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Sat 24th Oct 2009 23:21

thanks Chris (Persephone's-) : )

 

JEFF.W

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Sat 24th Oct 2009 10:58

hi there chris :)
thanks for your comments on the "what is love?" poem i enjoy reading your sample poems :)

 

garside

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Fri 23rd Oct 2009 16:43

hi Chris - hope you are well

you got an email addy ?

steve x


 

Chris Co

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Tue 20th Oct 2009 16:18

Hi Ray,

I wasn't sure if I was just talking guff to a complete stranger...quite hard to recognise someone off of the basis of a couple of poems and a shadow Hehe..

Anyway I liked your stuff at The Bards, great imagery and performaces, especially in over coming the inadvertent mid heckle on your latter poem....I'm recalling isosceles triangular roof top and a perfect suburban scene that was a little too good to be true which then cracked....reminded me a little of a louis Macneice poem.

Thx for the feedback on my last Inner Kingdom...another one that was written thanks to the joys of insomnia (oh well at least it has some benefits).

I haven't read Steppenwolf, I don't like their rock music.

I do joke ;)

Errm no I have read Goethe's Faust and I've read a bit of German philosophy but nothing by Mr Hesse i'm afraid, maybe that is something I might want to rectify?

Anyway hope to catch some of your poetry again soon be that more on the site or out and about.

Best to ya

Chris

 

Ray

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Mon 19th Oct 2009 22:37

Hi Chris

Yep, it was - and is! - the Ray you met at the Bards. Thanks for your comments and for getting in touch: it was grand to read your stuff (and hear you reading it again in my mind). I particularly liked the 'Inner Kingdom' thing too - have you read 'Steppenwolf' by Herman Hesse? Your piece moved me to think of it. Hopefully catch you soon. All the best, Ray

 

Chris Co

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Mon 19th Oct 2009 14:23

Thx kindly for the feedback Neil.

Glad you felt chilled by the cheap suit :) and happy that you felt the imagery and metaphors came through for you.

The intention was that of a philosophical thought provoker that has a real truth to it.

I appreciate the comment in reference to the performance because I initially recorded it with much more gusto. I felt that the words would speak louder with a more reserved tone so I re-recorded it accordingly.

No great story with the capitals I'm afraid. I just use caps to help me phrase certain poems on or off kilter when performing them and sometimes I leave them behind....If I feel a poem is finnished sometimes I don't think it's my right to change its querks so I leave such things behind.

Not sure about the burning of assistants in Preston.

Though maybe for irony you could dress as a fireman and have a flamethrower for a hose ala Ray Bradbury's Guy Montag in Farenheit 451?

Burn people to a cinder in their own homes dressed as a fireman.

You are the fire starter- a twisted fire starter!!! Hehe

P.S

If interested in the philosophy and subject matter behind the poem you might be interested in the talk/exchange between myself and Pete on the blog page.

 

Neil West

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Sun 18th Oct 2009 16:36

The evolution of an inner kingdom - wow. I think this is great, I'm left feeling quite chilled by it (I'm already burning the cheap suit!). Although the langage and imagery is very powerful (especially the violent metaphors for the death of the self) you read it with a sensitive reserve that I think makes it all the more effective. From a structural point of view, I wondered why some words and phrases are in capitals?

On a completely unrelated matter I'm exploring ways of setting my assistants on fire (it happens in Preston apparently) - any tips? ;)

 

nicky burrows

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Sun 18th Oct 2009 13:13

Not a problem Chris, I am happy for you to do so, thank you.

nicky x

 

spencer

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Sat 17th Oct 2009 22:06

Thanks for appreciation. I myself am not overly religious but I try to look at a subject and use language to catch the image and paint the picture. I myself have been no stranger to ill health and also been to places that metaphorically or not make Beasley Street look like Beasley Boulevard or perhaps Rodeo Drive. I like your work I reckon between us we could write a pretty good book. Maybe we should put a couple of short stories together.
I also write humorous poetry but that usually has plenty between the lines. My daughter was very ill once thankfully she recovered but It was the worst day of my life when I got the phone call and subsequently walked into the room in the hospital where she lay with all the medical equipment tubes etc plugged into her and the doctors doing what they had to do to help her. It is a street I don't want to walk down again. Thankfully she is fine now but every time I hear her cough I get a twinge.
Anyway that's a long winded way to say thanks for the comment, but ,thanks for the comment.

 

garside

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Fri 16th Oct 2009 19:55

Hi Chris

thanks for your requests - am humbled

steve x

 

nicky burrows

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Fri 16th Oct 2009 15:55

Thanks for that comment chris, nice to recieve a little praise and it was needed. A little down today, have been reprimanded by the WOL management, for negativity, and bad language. Haha, yes me, to a new poet john aikman. My negativity was in response to the fact that ...he really couldn't be bothered with opaque poetry that required an explanation...........(because).....lifes too short to fuck about trying to understand another person's anguish or language............ I told him in a nice enough way that I didn't agree and that maybe he needed to rethink what he thought poetry was about, before he alienated, all those on the site that take an interest in him, offer him support and encouragement. - oh an I quoted his 'fuck' - in inverted comma's and in the past tense. The only negative comment that I have ever given was in the hooha of the Ernesto thing, and I apologised to him because it was not a personal attack on him, and the words came out harsher than I intended but it was the anniversary of my little uns death and I was a little strung out.

I am new around here, how long have you been here, a few weeks less than me? It's just so hypocrital, and yes I have let it get to me - maybe I should put it into a poem, very cathartic and perform it on sunday at the Howcroft. lol.x

 

Chris Co

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Fri 16th Oct 2009 13:18

Thanks Steve and Steve respectively and Neil; your quite welcome.

 

garside

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Fri 16th Oct 2009 08:49

Hi Chris - they is up for a couple of days for you

steve x

 

Steve Smith

Thu 15th Oct 2009 20:27

Dear Chris,
Thanks for that - I loved your reading of 'Coal' -I think the welsh poets were also particularly affected by it.
Steve Smith

 

Neil West

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Thu 15th Oct 2009 18:19

Hi Chris, thanks for your comment, it's always nice to hear from you, I'm glad you thought the poem sounded natural and I do enjoy trying out different styles. O' Fatalistic Fortunes is a good poem for the historic figures discussion thread. It was interesting to hear your voice (I assume that's you), I'm considering some kind of audio post sometime, maybe!

 

Chris Co

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Thu 15th Oct 2009 17:55

The intention was clear and the poem is really nice Steve.

In any respect my middle name should be typo.

 

Steve Mellor

Thu 15th Oct 2009 16:16

Hi Chris
You win today's prize of a chocolate mouse.
Unfortunately with postal strike imminent, I thought it best to eat it myself.
Editing as we speak

 

Gus Jonsson

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Wed 14th Oct 2009 17:51

Chris thank you for listening ... The Poem was posted a couple of months ago.... I'm sure you can find it ... I have updated it very slightly since ...see if you can notice the amendments.

One again many thanks
Gus

 

garside

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Wed 14th Oct 2009 10:02

Hi Chris - good to meet you too as it was to shake hands with other readers at the Bards - enjoyed it a lot.

the poems have been posted on WOL before now - '3am' and 'Non Sum Qualis Erum' - i get your angle about the latter - this effect is intended...

i liked your poems too btw


steve x

 

Noetic Fret

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Mon 12th Oct 2009 19:03

Hi Chris, thank you for commenting on the poem Tickle - Hurt. The title refers to the paradoxes of life. On one hand the tickle makes you laugh, as does life, on the other it makes you hurt. I know its born of dualism, but many of life's factors are dual in nature. That is until we find the third way we are all looking for.

Stay well Chris

Mike

x

 

Chris Co

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Mon 12th Oct 2009 18:03

O that's ok Tommy...very best yo you.

 

Tommy Carroll

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Sun 11th Oct 2009 20:40

Chris thank you for your kind words. Sometimes I forget to remember.

 

Chris Co

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Sun 11th Oct 2009 01:43

Well Steve I am king of my own subjective opinion and my subjective opinion thinks your poem is great.

So your humility can quite frankly bugger-off while I consider you in esteem :)

 

Steve Mellor

Sat 10th Oct 2009 19:02

Hi Chris
Your comments are much appreciated.
Perhaps the point that requires proper explanation, is that when I refer to 'a child', it is me, but only a child in the knowledge of the world.
I was 19 when I emigrated, but I knew virtually nothing of the world. It's hard to imagine now, but in 1967, I had never been futher than the Isle of Man. I'd never seen London until I flew to SA.
So, most of the writing has a strong basis in my experience, but even then, some of what we now see as a sin only came to my mind after I'd got back to the UK, and seen SA from the outside.
My children were born there, and were the main reason for coming back. My wife and I thought that it was wrong for them to be brought up in an environment that was so blinkered.
I don't think that we believed that change could come about peacefully.
Thanks again
I tend not to comment on the work of others, as I haven't the balls to comment/criticise. This is not false humility!

 

Chris Co

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Fri 9th Oct 2009 06:08

Glad you enjoyed the poem even if 'liked' may not be the correct word Hehe.

I perfectly understand your phobia as spiders make my skin crawl a little too.

If the language did that (wow 6 times), then I hit one of the goals I set out which is good..

Your interpretation is fine and it is the best one because you in your instance are the reader.

I recall reading a comment on authoritarial content when it comes to penning poems by John Togher (I think that was his name- seems a good poet).

Anyway I pretty much agreed with everything he said in that I don't really believe that it is for the poet to say what a poem is, that is for the reader.

I mean a poet can say this is what I thought when writing it, but I don't think it is definitively/the authority to say the poem is this interpretation etc and no other.

I waffle as always- but yes your interpretation is your in subjective reading and therefore as correct.

thx again Nicky

P.S

I have just half read one of your poems and I am going to sod off back to reading it because it was looking good. :)

 

nicky burrows

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Fri 9th Oct 2009 05:12

I preferred my interpretation of 'spider?' great poem, you leave it open to the imagination and the subjective reader, very well written Chris. I have to comment here at present, because - as I mentioned in the discussion thread, it actually took me ( realistically 6 readings before i got through it ) and that's not counting the four times I skipped accross the title. I don't have may phobia's, except for anything that has more than four legs.:-)

 

michael shepherd

Tue 6th Oct 2009 12:14

Chris,

I have to thank you for (praise aside) the most eloquent response to a poem that I've ever received...

I'm often trying to explain to people that struggling poets are encouraged and enthused more by response than praise or general appreciation... especially when there's more of oneself in a poem than one understands oneself !

Thank you again.

Michael

 

Chris Co

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Mon 5th Oct 2009 11:50

Tommy the comments left were for the poem they were left after. Hopefully that makes sense?

 

Tommy Carroll

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Mon 5th Oct 2009 02:38

Chris: are you refering to my 'profile'?
T

 

Tommy Carroll

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Mon 5th Oct 2009 02:27

Chris: Please explain your last message...I am intriqueged. My brain stem has developed its own 'bacteria'
RSVP
Tommy

 

Chris Co

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Sun 4th Oct 2009 22:46

I agree with a lot you have had to say Josh and will comment accordingly on your profile.

 

Joshua Van-Cook

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Sun 4th Oct 2009 20:42

Thanks for your comments on "Texting". I know it's not enforced by any authorities or the like. When I heard that someone in my High School had used 'text language' in an exam, I was horrified. So you can see how this poem was sired. I also love 'Nineteen Eighty-Four', as you've probably guessed. Regardless of its relevance to today, it is, in my opinion, one of the most important books of the 20th century. Sorry for rambling so long, and thanks again.

- Josh

 

Isobel

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Sun 4th Oct 2009 18:12

Hi Chris - thanks for your comments on my latest. You were wise not to get involved in the recent POM - I might do the same next month. The safest ground is the middle ground - or up somewhere in a tree watching... Ironically I think I had more in common with the Poet of the Month than many of the contributors to the thread - we were just on different sides of the fence this time - but he was passionate like me and unafraid of nailing his colours to the wall, at the appropriate time. x

 

steve garside

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Sat 3rd Oct 2009 08:56

Hi Chris - thanks for your comment on my profile - v much appreciated

great profile photo btw

steve x

 

Steve Mellor

Fri 2nd Oct 2009 22:02

Hi Chris
Thanks for the comment. It's just a bit of 'in' humour for 3 of the girls on the site, who have a particular link.
With regard to your little battles on the site, I would advise you to let it go. In my early days I walked away twice (not for the same reason as you), but I was getting ripped, without having asked for any critique. I changed my profile to emphasise the fact that I only write for my entertainment. If it's rubbish, it's my rubbish, and I'm happy.
You'll possibly note that some of the greatest 'critics' are the least regular contributors, which I find odd.
I tend not to comment on the work of others as I don't feel qualified.
Just keep reading and posting. If you and just one other gets enjoyment from it, you may find that suffices.
Steve M.

 

steve black

Fri 2nd Oct 2009 18:43

Chris, I am pleased you have decided to stay, I think if you are serious about your writing you'll just chalk up the last episode to experience. You obviously wear your heart on your sleeve, I would just focus on the work, that is ultimately what the other writers on this site are interested in. I'd leave the other stuff to God or whoever.

 

Chris Co

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Wed 30th Sep 2009 23:39

Well it's good Neil.

Given the adult themes come via subtext and the sensibilities are human and morally good, I still think it would work well as a teaching aid with kids or teenagers...not because it is childish, but because it is not, but has an accessibility that can teach.

Because it offers up so many questions on rights and wrongs.

Asking for a little more in the middle was just a personal thought for me, though please sir can I have some more can't be a critisism for such a piece I don't think.

I thought I felt a Russian touch too it, the Bosnia conflict via Serbia certainly does have that conection and of course there was the link via Tito and the former Yugoslavia being part of the iron curtain.

Anyway I enjoyed it- well written.

 

Neil West

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Wed 30th Sep 2009 22:06

Hi ChrisSincere thanks for the detailed observations, I can't find much that I would disagree with in what you say. Initially, the work was a straight dramatic piece I wrote as a student after the conflict in Bosnia and only recently felt able to flex a bit of poetic muscle and rewrite it in verse. I read a lot before I started to get the feel of what I wanted to from Shakespeare through the Romantics to the war poets as you observed. I experienced a dilemma about style and felt that maintaining the same poetic structure throughout would be less inspiring for me to write and less entertaining to a modern audience but I did want to maintain a sense of poetic structure, the musicality of poetry that I enjoy from my own reading. I also felt that the piece could be longer, I considered a third act exploring the conflic further but felt this might take some of the power away from the exploration of its effect on the individual. I like writing that works on different levels and I was pleased you felt that that is an element of Homefront. From reading your comments I think you've identified all the themes I tried to explore and agree that the personification of War has parallels with other representations of evil, taking pleasure in the sufferings of humanity. I suppose the only other angle I might take on it is to question what is real and what is vision, do the events take place or is it all simply a story? Ultimately, can we blame the mystical or supernatural for our sufferings or do we bring it on ourselves, in contrast with Shakespeare for example where tragedies are controlled by a sense of natural order, in reality we are damned or redeemed by our own actions - perhaps?

 

Chris Co

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Wed 30th Sep 2009 20:47

I like the poem much more now Nicky.

I feels less worried about the author.

The 3rd person lends enough of a step back to retain concern and interest without the 'oh I hope the author is ok' feel.

Also the opposing feeling for the author to that above would be that it has 'a woe is me' sentiment to it and others could question, is this a woman who has not had it so bad and is moaning a bit too much?

The change of perspective clearly gets rid of notions of this as well.

Personally I would have liked it to have somehow been one visit to the window and the images recounted in the neighbours mind, as if revealed bit by bit onion-like, as opposed to lots of visits...but maybe this is me being too literal.I like it more now yes :)

But that isn't important, the key is how do you feel about it now?

Afterall it is yours and your feeling towards it is paramount.

 

nicky burrows

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Tue 29th Sep 2009 14:35

Hi Chris, thanks for your comment on Single Malt Tears. I actually removed it and wrote it from a different perspective. It would be interesting to hear what you think of the change. All criticism welcome.

She cries this woman,
whose name I don't know,
all alone.
Single malt tears etched
with pain slide down her face
as I catch a glimpse
of her world
from mine.
I stare with morbid curiosity
through the windowpane
splashed with scattered droplets
of drizzling rain,
and trace their perilous journey
as, I watch this woman
with no name
who hides her sorrow
and her shame
away from pity
and prying eyes like mine.

I condemn my nosy neighbour
frame of mind
and break the link that draws
and holds me there,
which causes me to stare
and uninvitedly share
her pain, her fear and strife.
She haunts my subconscious thought
so I cannot but help return
from day to day,
to catch up on the current saga of her life,
and watch
her silent monologue
of despair and rage and sorrow
that are not mine to share.
Each time, I solemnly vow
that I will not return tommorrow
but watch some real life
drama on tv
instead of voyeur at her tragedy.

An aeon goes by
and I refrain
until once again I peer
unrestrained, through the rain
washed windowpain,
morbid nature
and curiosity untamed,
from my world
tinged with shame
to her world
awash with pain.
Stillness
and foreboding
chilled the curiosity
in my inquisitve brain
and the rain washed window
drowned me
in a depravity of shame.

Still she lay
just as I left her
on that other rainwashed day.
Her single malt tears now dry
No longer will she cry.

I often sit when it rains
and peer through
the windowpane
at the shadows of the woman
who had no name.
Sometimes, when the
clouds break
and the watery sun
casts a single malt glow,
I trace the sorrowful journey
of those single malt tears
and the shame and regret
left in their wake
as they wander aimlessly
down my windowpane.


 

Isobel

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Tue 29th Sep 2009 12:55

Delighted to see you voting Chris. I agree that it was an excellent poem, in spite of its 'September trees and leaves of brown' - just as well we all have different taste. For future reference I am asking people to email me with their vote farmoorgirl@yahoo.co.uk - just so we don't unduly influence each other.
Thanks again.x

 

Chris Co

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Mon 28th Sep 2009 13:35

Hey Neil,

I am no soothsayer, but history is an inevitable process and it is unlikely that humans can last forever.

I find it funny, we think we are so superior on the basis of high conciousness, abstract thought and computational power (or in my case skillful playing of Buckeroo and Operation as a child).

But what happens if an asteroid strikes like it did with the dinosaurs, what happens if the global temperature radically alters and heat tollerance, adaptability to the cold or lack of oxygen becomes the key factor(s)?

Having the bigger brain wont mean anything.

In our arrogance we sometimes talk of being a higher evolved lifeform; this is a false imposition upon nature.

Evolution does not evolve upwards;

It just evolves to a best fit.

It could be argued that bacteria are more successful than we are and ceratinly they may outstrip our stay in this planet.

We always view things through our narrow monkeybrain viewpoint.

As for whether any hope for the future;

Mmm George Santayana once said;

Those who fail to remember the past are doomed to relive it.

So you would hope lessons would be learnt.

Then again Clint Eastwood once said;

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

And a lot of the assholes have power, influence or guns and we do have those monkey brains of ours so (on the micro rather than the macro level Larkin too had it right in saying;

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.

Monkey see as monkey do.

P.S

Out of interest If I said imagine you are a bat, tell me how you feel? what would or could you say? (just a philosophical thought experiment).

 

nicky burrows

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Mon 28th Sep 2009 10:14

Hi chris

I don't know what to say to the response with regards to the Poem that should never have been a poem and Lilley, except say, thank you.

They were both written about the same tragic experience in life, although Lilley is a little more abstract and has hope, I think, and tries to make sense of things through nature, in stark contrast to The poem that should never have been a poem. Side by side maybe they show the battle that goes on inside oneself, the need to believe that there is something more (afterlife) for those we love and have lost, against the fear that there is only nothingness.

thank you for introducing me to the 'brother flower' poem. It is beautiful, although painful to read. I keep returning to it to read it again.

Take care
Nicky.

 

Neil West

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Sun 27th Sep 2009 22:13

Hi Chris, I very much like Ego of Man, nothing human can last forever. Would you agree that there is an inevitable process of change to history in a materialist sense of is there a cause and effect at work? Do we have any hope of changing the future for the better, learning the lessons of history, or will events take their own course in spite of what we do? By the way, you might want to quit the fags, they're playing merry hell with your complection! lol

 

Isobel

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Sat 26th Sep 2009 23:50

Thanks for your comment on Alfie, Chris. Yes - that is one of my more thoughtful ones. It is really a performance piece so I should try to put sound to it. I have to pay someone to do that though - I really need to buy some technology. Will read your newest tomorrow. Have just been to the Tudor - so am all poetried out and brain is disengaged. So glad to see you have a profile up now. I am sure you will enjoy the site.
Isobel x

 

Gus Jonsson

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Sat 26th Sep 2009 21:39

Thank you so much for your considered critique.... re A Boys Visit .... I am encouraged.


Once again many thanks.

PS Welcome to WOL by the way.

Gus

 

Chris Co

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Sat 26th Sep 2009 20:25

I very much do think that Frank- yes.

Tony Benn has spoke with great articulation and passion on this very matter (even if he is an old out of fashion lefty).

Unfortunately International politics is all about power, agenda, horse trading and feathering the nest of incumbant administrations.

 

David Franks

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Sat 26th Sep 2009 19:47

Further to "By Me- Ego of Man", Chris, do you agree it would be better for all if the UN (surely, good in principle) became stronger/more democratic.

 

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