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Form and function

                                                                                                  
Speaking of form and function. Helen, on here,
recently made a very respectable attempt at a
`modern` version of the Sestina. 

It caused me to look at Ezra Pound`s version of
the form for comparison. (this is it below).

A sestina is basically six stanzas of six lines each
normally followed by a three line envoi. Pound
also  `catches` a word from the last line of each
stanza as a sort of continuing link to stitch the poem
together. (besides using the key word  `rejoicing`
as a sort of repeat in each stanza)

To her credit Helen has done all of this.

Pound`s poem is `about` Betrans de Born, who Dante
consigned to a certain section of hell (which - as an
example of contrapsso -Matched the punishment to
the kind of bloodthirsty, wild, sinner that he was.)

I don`t know enough about Pound to judge, but this 
blood and guts effort (with a splash of scorn for the 
`womanish peace`) Looks rather as though the poet
is getting into his character and enjoying himself.
(its not very moral)

Two questions:

1... do you agree
2... How do you think the form could be used today 

 


Have I dug him up again? 
The scene is at his castle, Altaforte. "Papiols" is his jongleur. "The Leopard," the device of Richard Coeur de Lion.

I

Damn it all! all this our South stinks peace. 
You whoreson dog, Papiols, come! Let's to music! 
I have no life save when the swords clash. 
But ah! when I see the standards gold, vair, purple, opposing 
And the broad fields beneath them turn crimson, 
Then howls my heart nigh mad with rejoicing. 
II

In hot summer have I great rejoicing 
When the tempests kill the earth's foul peace, 
And the lightnings from black heav'n flash crimson, 
And the fierce thunders roar me their music 
And the winds shriek through the clouds mad, opposing, 
And through all the riven skies God's swords clash. 
III

Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash! 
And the shrill neighs of destriers in battle rejoicing, 
Spiked breast to spiked breast opposing! 
Better one hour's stour than a year's peace 
With fat boards, bawds, wine and frail music! 
Bah! there's no wine like the blood's crimson! 
IV

And I love to see the sun rise blood-crimson. 
And I watch his spears through the dark clash 
And it fills all my heart with rejoicing 
And pries wide my mouth with fast music 
When I see him so scorn and defy peace, 
His lone might 'gainst all darkness opposing. 
V

The man who fears war and squats opposing 
My words for stour, hath no blood of crimson 
But is fit only to rot in womanish peace 
Far from where worth's won and the swords clash 
For the death of such sluts I go rejoicing; 
Yea, I fill all the air with my music. 
VI

Papiols, Papiols, to the music! 
There's no sound like to swords swords opposing, 
No cry like the battle's rejoicing 
When our elbows and swords drip the crimson 
And our charges 'gainst "The Leopard's" rush clash. 
May God damn for ever all who cry "Peace!" 
VII

And let the music of the swords make them crimson! 
Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash! 
Hell blot black for always the thought "Peace!" 

◄ Any poet`s answer to the Astronauts

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Mon 3rd Aug 2015 17:27

Thanks, Harry, this is brilliant, with a howl for blood screaming all through it.

And, Helen, I'm copying out your much appreciated format. Don't know if I'll ever try it, but I have a family visit coming up, and this would certainly ensure no boredom no matter how many hours I might have to while away by myself. Geometry does the same trick - completely engrossing, just for fun. Paper and a Helix Pack - sheer delight. Algebra - not so much. Poetry and Geometry are not so far apart, like Music. IMHO, of course.

Actually, I'm never bored.

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Helen Elliott

Mon 3rd Aug 2015 10:08

Hi Harry,

Yes, I have tried the form on a couple of occasions and both times I found that by the middle you lose your way.

You said above about the same words popping up throughout each stanza.

In simple terms - there are 6 end words that are repeated through each stanzas. The placement of these words is determined with the strict form. For example:

Stanza 1: ABCDEF
Stanza 2: FAEBDC
Stanza 3: CFDABE
Stanza 4: ECBFAD
Stanza 5: DEACFB
Stanza 6: BDFECA

Envoi: BE
DC
FA

Quite complicated and difficult to keep the flow.

Also, the 39 line Sestina is traditionally non-rhyming.

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