Very moving Stu. All I can add is that what happens to us when we're gone is a matter of conjecture - religion being just one option, I think the idea of salvation being awarded on any merit being a thin one. I think good and evil is just two sides of the same coin.
Nevertheless it may have been very real to him so can't be invalidated on an opinion or even a conviction against that perceived reality. That's my opinion of course! Your view is still very valid and your lines have an integrity either way.
I've gone a bit quiet recently, but me missus had a hip replacement so my mind is on full alert ....
all the best. Ray
Comment is about Corinthians 2.4 (blog)
Original item by Stuart Buck
Some evocative imagery at work here. I agree with SB about the analogy of state of mind and an empty city.
I love to stay here in London when the bank holidays
arrive - with my own state of mind enjoying the change
of pace and the increased peace.
Comment is about It Get So Lonely Here (blog)
Original item by Tom Harding
Spot on Martin. Read a bit like the American Declaration of Independence ;-)
Comment is about We (blog)
Original item by Martin Elder
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cost-of-royal-family-rises-twice-as-fast-as-inflation-9563293.html
my personal favourite?
'a charter flight to attend the funeral of Nelson Mandela which cost £246,160'
Comment is about Unelected (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
I chuckled at the patronising mention of "balance" by the
contributor. Tilt is more like it...if you don't agree with
me and my supporters, you're "pointless". Ho-ho.
By the way, I am rather more "centrist" than right-wing.
As for a mandate, the monarchy was restored by public
demand after Cromwell departed (and subsequently vilified
as is sometimes the way in history). Since that time
the institution has survived and has enjoyed widespread
support without a ballot box - although I seem to recall
that produced a result in its favour way down in Australia,
probably the likeliest place to go for a republic.
The simplistic response to my proposal about the institution working needs no further response from me.
Comment is about Unelected (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Ah - another pointless irrelevant post by our regular right winger.
Two excellent posts by other contributors however to balance it up.
Thank you all for reading and taking the time to comment. Even the completely pointless ones, because they illustrate how easy it can be to make a fool of oneself in public. Again.
Comment is about Unelected (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
An example of Newberry's moribund thinking: "if something works why change it?" well that thinking could be applied to 'green goddesses ', ( "Oh my Newberry your hayrick is on fire!", "fear not Ted, the Green Goddesses shall be here within the hour".) leaded petrol, lead water pipes, silent films, wallpaper Newberry's socks etc.
Comment is about Unelected (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Hello Harry. We're both old and ugly enough to remember income tax at 90% (33% on basic), interest rates at 15%, and inflation at 25%, the Social Con-Trick.
I don't think that will happen again under Corbyn because I don't think he'll get the chance; but who knows?
Me and you made a bollocks of the world; perhaps we should let the youngsters have a go.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
M.C.
I think the first one was Joshua...and he lived till he was a hundred and ten years old.
Ah! milk and honey!...milk and honey!
Comment is about COR - LABOUR'S FOR THE BYN! (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
For many, many years the `music` of the Labour party has been
all the old rousting `real` socialist` stuff, (which began to sound
a bit daft about prospering car drivers flying away frquently on
foreign holidays) while the lyrics have been the usual mundane
recognition of,and submission to, the real economic realities as
they dictated what could be done.
Corbyn is a return to the music only (helped greatly by the
entirely unexpected Tory election victory which `giddyed`
them into actually granting extra goodies to the the rich
which they must have hoped that `coalitionally` they would
not have had to make)... that re-jigging of the benefit system
was already pencilled in by the Labour party. (I think because
abuses were proving more and more of a vote loser with it`s
own supporters.)
What happens when the money-printing stops and the interest
rate goes up (together with the mortgage payments and prices)
and the fairly recently aquired fat that we are all still living off
runs out, is anybody`s guess.
Given that the cars and holidays have ruined the `Red Flag`...And also that the thousands of immigrants have muddled up `Land of Hope and Glory` I don`t know what we`re going to have to fall back on for tunes :)
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
MC - I've never bought into the Baron Acton quote that "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely".
What I believe is that Power compromises Vision - those in power have to get their hands dirty with compromise.
I believe that, like Michael Foot, Corbyn will retain his status as an icon of the Left because he will never have to compromise his Vision - because, like Michael Foot, he will never be in power.
Well, that's what I think anyway.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
JC - (the world's suddenly full of those initials!) - probably
true about the taint of power. The posterity bit also
touches Hugh Gaitskill and Tory PM that never was - Iain Macleod as far as high office is concerned.
Cameron was close to Major when the latter was PM - and
no doubt still listens to what the latter has to say about
things - especially Europe...one reason why I see no
reason to trust the present PM on the subject.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Aww thanks Lea, hope they enjoy it.
Comment is about THE BALLAD OF THE QUACKING OWL (blog)
Original item by THE PEN AND THE PAGE
Graham- David Cameron never held a ministerial role before becoming prime minister. Cameron was head of policy co-ordination during the 2005 general election campaign- in effect he was campaign manager for the Tories a bit like the mail-boy being made Managing director. Touché ;-)
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Ooo, you are wicked, Graham.
You are probably right, MC, although I think he enjoys a halo through
(A) not getting his hands dirty in power
(B) checking out
(C) standing chronological comparison with Blair
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Oo what is going on here? LoL
Comment is about COR - LABOUR'S FOR THE BYN! (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Wasn't Hitler elected? I'm prepared to be corrected on that
score.
Perhaps we should examine the electoral system and
make it generational - awarding votes accordingly?
Whatever the opinion of the individual "royals", the
institution has been widely supported (and admired)
and if something works, why change it?
P.S. I'm 71 yrs.196 days16 hrs along this life's highway.
Comment is about Unelected (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
I wonder if there are souls out there who deeply regret
the sad passing of John Smith and all that he may have
achieved, given the chance that death denied him.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
I mean come on!
Just because everyone likes the office tea boy doesn't mean they should vote for him when the Managing Director resigns.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Hello - me again! Do we have a theme for the next Stockport WOL? - if so, please could someone let me know what it is? - Thanks so much, Dorinda x
JAZZ!
Comment is about Stockport WoL (group profile)
Original item by Stockport WoL
<Deleted User> (13947)
Mon 14th Sep 2015 12:41
Thank you Stu for your comment on 'Summer Rain'. Much appreciated.
Comment is about Stuart Buck (poet profile)
Original item by Stuart Buck
powerful stuff especially the last lines.
Comment is about The Shameless Liars (blog)
Original item by Nigel Astell
You are absolutely right, Tommy. Time will tell. You may not believe it but I rather hope I'm wrong.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
As the most honourable and worthy Ali bin Khayriyyah Karim al-Rashid said in a recent interview on the World Service: "suck it and see" ;-)
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
I think I understand, Tommy. If me, you and a dog are having a pint and me and the dog decide to form the government, you'd go along with that.
Graham - STOP THAT! - I've got a split lip!
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Mon 14th Sep 2015 05:15
Oh, this is sweet! I'm going to show this one to my kids - they'll love it x
Comment is about THE BALLAD OF THE QUACKING OWL (blog)
Original item by THE PEN AND THE PAGE
Corbin in, his task begins
With very little thanks
It's hard to build a cabinet
With so many short planks
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Latest news...
Scouser is shadow home secretary..
Latest news...hahaha it just gets better!
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
John the democratic process stands whatever the numbers involved are. Your analogy is similar to a dozen screws is better than a gross of
screw-drivers when a single tea-bag is required.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Lynn Hamilton
Sun 13th Sep 2015 21:56
Thank you for reading and commenting, Ray. Much appreciated. x
Comment is about ray pool (poet profile)
Original item by ray pool
Colin - David Miliband is one of the great "What Ifs" of recent politics. I suspect we wouldn't be where we are now with Corbyn as Labour leader and a Tory government in power if it had not been for Ed;s vanity.
JH - This is a little off-piste for me. I aspire to tripe, as you know.
Tommy - I assume you respect the democratic process which returned Cameron to power. (He garnered 11m votes, of course, not 300,000).
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
60% ha! The utter contempt in this post shown for the democratic process. Hahaha. JC for me and a different JC for thee. The right wing have ruined the Labour party and crippled the trade unions. Blairites v Corbynistas come on down.
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
<Deleted User> (13762)
Sun 13th Sep 2015 21:03
sacrificial lamb - David Miliband to save the day (maybe) when his International Rescue contract expires - it's all playing into his hands as planned - knight in shining armour riding in to save the party blah blah
good poem John
Comment is about THINGS CAN ONLY GET BITTER (PART 2) (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
The Enchanted Art Gallery Weekend
26 & 27 September 2015
This is your chance to have your Enchanting poem on display!
just bring it along with the register form on Monday night
all work has to be sent in this week to be sorted out!
the theme for the night is Jazz
Jazz It Up
Blow hard
let cheeks
go red
if nothing
is happening
rub it
for luck - - -
always works
for me!
Comment is about Write Out Loud at Stockport art gallery tonight (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
why thank you mr pool. my wife is also tired and wingeing today but i made her some tea and she seems happier now. i have altered the ending a bit (me, editing!) and it ends up more grand in scale now. which i like.
Comment is about soft (blog)
Original item by Stuart Buck
sort of predatory in a personal way Lynn. Shades of Fatal Attraction . Excellent.
Comment is about Nodding Bitch (blog)
Stu, I'm envious . Your freedom of expression is innate, and today I feel like a blundering penpusher in comparison. Such a personal sense in this one. I won't strip it down as I'm tired today and wingeing. It's nice that we both share the same universe.
Comment is about soft (blog)
Original item by Stuart Buck
Thank you's! I much appreciate your words, thank you. Children- even the adult ones I have now, I cannot stand to imagine leaving them entirely. I'm going to hide myself in poems.
Comment is about Family Tree (blog)
Original item by CathyLCrabb
Looks like you were inspired by Diggers?
Comment is about PILGRIMAGE (blog)
Original item by Pete Slater
<Deleted User> (13762)
Sat 12th Sep 2015 20:46
yeehaw! - love it Lynn - in a good way of course
Comment is about Nodding Bitch (blog)
this is an exceptional piece of writing.
Comment is about An Interrogative (blog)
Original item by Noetic-fret!
<Deleted User> (13947)
Fri 11th Sep 2015 23:57
Thank you Cynthia for your comment on 'Summer Rain' :)
Comment is about Cynthia Buell Thomas (poet profile)
Original item by Cynthia Buell Thomas
liked this a lot Tommy :-)
Comment is about ...take those lips (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
Hi Cynthia / Tommy. Good to see you still posting on WOL. These text format 'accidents' can sometimes add to a piece? I liked this despite/because of them. :-)
Comment is about The Astronomer (blog)
Original item by Tommy Carroll
A Big Hello Audrey!
I hope you find Write Out Loud a pleasure to be part of.
Thank you very much for your comment on my poem Internalizations of the External. It means a lot to me.
I shall dip into your work soon. Very tired but inspired right now by David Moore's work.
Be well, be strong and if you can't be happy...........fake it. God knows they love it when people succumbe to how depressing this World can be.
Much love
Mike
Comment is about lolaudrey (poet profile)
Original item by lolaudrey
Isn't it fabulous what you can do with a few different turns of words, their order in a line, in a verse, in the whole entity? Both poems are really good, just a shade different. It would be so easy to like the first one better; but that may be just because I read it first, and captured its mood so clearly, with such pleasure.
Comment is about August (blog)
Original item by Tom Harding
Andy N
Thu 17th Sep 2015 10:24
great piece nigel but the last two lines are particularly brill
Comment is about The Shameless Liars (blog)
Original item by Nigel Astell