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Wanted: the Dickens of a poet

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In case you didn’t already know, this week marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Dickens  - and we at Write Out Loud thought it time to remind you that he wrote a few poems, too. Here’s one of his better ones, below: 

 

The Ivy Green

Oh, a dainty plant is the Ivy green,

That creepeth o’er ruins old!

Of right choice food are his meals, I ween,

In his cell so lone and cold.

The wall must be crumbled, the stone decayed,

To pleasure his dainty whim:

And the mouldering dust that years have made

Is a merry meal for him.

      Creeping where no life is seen,

      A rare old plant is the Ivy green.

 

Fast he stealeth on, though he wears no wings,

And a staunch old heart has he.

How closely he twineth, how tight he clings,

To his friend the huge Oak Tree!

And slily he traileth along the ground,

And his leaves he gently waves,

As he joyously hugs and crawleth round

The rich mould of dead men’s graves.

      Creeping where grim death has been,

      A rare old plant is the Ivy green.

 

Whole ages have fled and their works decayed,

And nations have scattered been;

But the stout old Ivy shall never fade,

From its hale and hearty green.

The brave old plant, in its lonely days,

Shall fatten upon the past:

For the stateliest building man can raise,

Is the Ivy’s food at last.

      Creeping on, where time has been,

      A rare old plant is the Ivy green.

 

Dickens was a master of the spoken word performance, even though it did kill him in the end. But glancing at some examples of his poetic oeuvre brings the realisation that the great novelist couldn’t be brilliant at everything. Perhaps he found the breadth of his vision and social concerns impossible to express within the apparent conventions and restrictions of 19th century poetry. And perhaps it also occurred to him that poetry didn’t pay as well. 

But it raises an interesting question: is poetry in the 21st poetry any more able to voice the kind of issues that troubled Dickens?  Should it be trying to? Or is it too inward-looking to attempt it? Maybe it is time to look for the Dickens of a poet to step forward in these troubled times.

 

 

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John F Keane

Fri 10th Feb 2012 08:43

Jeez - that's me done for, right there!

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Anthony Emmerson

Thu 9th Feb 2012 19:40

I say we cull out anyone with an IQ of less than say 120 - and anyone who hasn't got blue eyes and blonde hair.

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John F Keane

Thu 9th Feb 2012 14:13

I think culture-free IQ tests are a fairly objective measure of what our culture considers 'intelligence', as is (to a lesser extent) academic performance in 'difficult' subjects requiring mastery of abstract concepts (obviously, all are terms relative to our culture). If such tests 'do not test anything' as their critics claim, why do people who perform well in them tend to live (much) longer, raise healthy children and so on?

At a casual level, it is interesting that while science and technology advance apace, the arts are in a state of regression. At some level, this surely reflects an intellectual imbalance in contemporary civilization - C P Snow and all that. I truly think many of the great artists and writers of old would be unknown today, for the reasons described. Clever people seek difficult tasks and the contemporary arts establishment has deliberately banned all 'difficulty' from the arts, as a matter of semi-official policy.

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Julian (Admin)

Thu 9th Feb 2012 12:55

Whilst you raise some interesting questions, John, your reliance on the term 'intelligence' for your arguments rather undermines them, as does their rather sweeping nature. What you mean by 'genuinely intelligent' comes across as meaning 'in my, John Keane's, opinion', rather than having a universally recognisable meaning. Thus, the potential for emotive reactions to such a word as 'intelligent' is a clue to your underlying motive here, which is perhaps to provoke debate.
I agree with Greg, that Dickens is likely to have been a TV and radio dramatist, had he been around these days. A bit like Jimmy McGovern, or Bleasdale, Boys From the Blackstuff writer.

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Greg Freeman

Thu 9th Feb 2012 09:19

You wonder, how would Dickens get his themes across if he were alive today? Probably not in novels. Maybe he would be a TV dramatist or screenwriter. Or maybe a scriptwriter for EastEnders or Corrie?

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John F Keane

Thu 9th Feb 2012 09:05

*But it raises an interesting question: is poetry in the 21st poetry any more able to voice the kind of issues that troubled Dickens? Should it be trying to? Or is it too inward-looking to attempt it? Maybe it is time to look for the Dickens of a poet to step forward in these troubled times.*

The arts in the contemporary era are not dominated by the most intelligent people. People with very high intelligence tend to be 'creamed off' by the sciences. Once, that was not the case. Before science arose, highly intelligent people pursued the arts because there were no alternatives to attract their interest/attention. People like Leonardo/Shakespeare/etc. would probably not be involved in the arts, nowadays. If they were, they would be frustrated and unsuccessful - since mindless 'novelty' is now the order of the day (Emin's Bed, for instance). A genuinely intelligent individual like Will Self sticks out by contrast in the contemporary cultural scene.

The contemporary arts establishment wallows in formless, know-nothing navel-gazing because it is dominated by the mediocre. Everyone apart from them can see that Emin is as thick as two short planks. The retreat of the arts from scientific, social and political reality reflects the declining intelligence of those in the arts establishment and those they lionize, not the arts themselves. Modern culture is shopping lists, depression diaries and chairs made of twigs for the same reason.

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