John Coopey

WHEN HITLER BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN

Friday 30th August 2019 6:08 pm

(First he asked the President to dissolve the Reichstag. Then he banned opposition parties. Finally he introduced the Enabling Act to allow him to by-pass the Reichstag)

The crowds they cheered him joyously

“With one great leap we will be free”

It was the start of things to be

When Hitler brought the House down.

“Let’s end all this procrastination”

Spake the volk of half a nation

“Free the block of legislation”

When Hitler brought the House down.

So that was where the rot would start

From that point on the slide we’d chart

As evil stole a nation’s heart

When Hitler brought the House down.

Opponents were denied a voice

With meetings stormed by bully boys

Burning books among their ploys

As Hitler brought the House down.

At first they’d lift a Kike or two

We said “They’re not like me and you

Untermenschlich” we all knew

The lice of every town.

“It couldn’t ever happen here

We’re better race, we’re different year

We hold democracy too dear”

We’d never bring the House down.

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Comments

John Coopey

Tue 3rd Sep 2019 10:55

It would be a huge error of judgement not to consider democracy anything but a fragile construct.

John Coopey

Mon 2nd Sep 2019 00:15

Deeply saddened by the fact that this is happening. But more so by the fact that the complete investment in Brexit gullibility requires that people don't care. I always wondered why Hitler found it so easy to tread ever closer to totalitarianism. I am getting a glimpse now.

John Coopey

Mon 2nd Sep 2019 00:06

There is no need to generate fear over what might happen, Graham. It is happening.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/30/uk-falls-to-bottom-of-g7-growth-league-in-second-quarter
And, Wolfgang, I have never presumed our freedom comes free. I would have thought my poem was evidence itself of that.

Graham Sherwood

Sun 1st Sep 2019 22:25

When did you join Project Fear JC?

John Coopey

Sun 1st Sep 2019 22:14

When we talk about the protection of the British constitution it is important to understand that we don't have one. We have a "system" of practice and precedent. And I would dispute that the overrule of parliamentary representatives by a Prime Minister is not a dictatorship. It may be benign and politely British but it cannot be anything other that a dictatorship if the PM is allowed to dictate to Parliament.

M.C. Newberry

Sun 1st Sep 2019 17:48

My own final comment on this "interesting" situation is that this is
less about democracy and more about its manipulation to suit a
purpose. The most ground-breaking example of the word in its
proper sense was the majority vote in a national poll on staying in
or departing from the European Union - granted by Parliament
itself. The result seems to have been against expectations.
To disenfranchise that same vote now by raising non-existent
inclusions/conditions applicable to that vote is a manipulation of democracy.

John Coopey

Sun 1st Sep 2019 15:57

The most alarming thing for me is that so many people are not alarmed by the fact that they went to bed one night in a democracy and woke up the next morning in a dictatorship.

M.C. Newberry

Sun 1st Sep 2019 15:16

It's pleasing to see considered if conflicting views about this most
important chapter in the history of these islands. To get a proper
perspective we need to go back to the immediate post-war days
when the looming perceived threat from the arrival of the Russians
in Germany, with their "foothold" and (for the Yanks especially)
communist idealogy, suddenly the atrocities and would-be
enslavement of the free world by Nazi Germany were sidelined:
the new enemy was Russia! Encouraged by this thinking, certain
mindsets in Europe were encouraged to see a political buffer
of strength in a "united Europe", actively endorsed by the USA
with its huge financial interests and investment via the Marshall Plan and its own chosen position as the enemy of communism.
The "Common Market" became its innocuous innocent "front" and
the plan proceeded with participation by politicians/powerbrokers
willing to adopt stealth, deceit and want of truth (the latter
especially goes against our UK way of thinking!), Ted Heath
was warned by Geoffrey Rippon that the British people would never agree if they knew what was ahead and the decision that
they would not be told has haunted the Tories (and the
subsequent public trust in Parliament) ever since). After all,
if the occupants of that place were willing to indulge in conduct
that gave away its sovereignty to become a yellow star on a
made-up flag and to all intents and purposes be controlled by
rule from elsewhere, then the very word "sovereignty" is a risible
abuse of its real meaning for us here in these islands. Only by
a consensus within Parliament NOW to comply with the essential
example of democracy via the recent one-off/no second chance
national referendum can trust in Parliament be restored to its
rightful place. The real danger is that those in Parliament are
still bedevilled by thoughts that their own conceits and convictions
take precedence over that monumental public decision and that
only serves to exacerbate a fraught situation. It is said that
Cromwell meeting similar behaviour in his own time, dismissed
them: "Get ye gone for all the good ye do here" (or something
similar). Temporary parliamentary suspension seems a very
logical step under present circumstances and it also has a place
in the system with a new government seeking to "set out is stall" despite its opponents accusing the government of ulterior
motives e.g. actually seeking to do what the referendum
required of it - to LEAVE the EU and forego the endless self-deception that "they" (its opponents) know what is best for us.

Jason Bayliss

Sun 1st Sep 2019 10:19

Ok, I'm going to tentatively Wade in here. The European project had the potential to be good, however, as I've stated before, as far as I'm concerned, a true democracy is a mutually binding contract between leaders and people, i.e. you can send me to war to die and kill, and if I don't like you I can vote you out at some point, we are accountable to each other. My vote has to count right to the top. In the EU this was not true, and if it had been I'd have voted remain. But between one civil war and two world wars I think too much blood has been spilt by free democracies to give that up.
I don't like Boris but I think he may have actually played a blinder. The EU have laughed at our negotiating stance from the beginning thinking that whatever the leaders say parliament will stop it happening. Now he can go to them and say, "Right, no more f***ing about, you're just dealing with me and me alone, and I am prepared to walk away."
I mean, you could be right John, he might just be a mental megalomaniac, or very clever, I suppose only time will tell.

J. x

John Coopey

Sun 1st Sep 2019 09:26

A question for you, Don; would you have supported Hitler when he dissolved the Reichstag?

<Deleted User> (18980)

Sun 1st Sep 2019 09:01

A question Don...would Australia allow itself to be governed by an alliance of NZ, Tonga, Fiji, Samoa etc? I thought not.

John Coopey

Sun 1st Sep 2019 08:51

Wounds that won’t heal in our lifetime, Don.

Don Matthews

Sun 1st Sep 2019 03:07

I enter this from 10,000 miles only out of 'concern' for what i see happening. Would I be right in thinking the outcome, whatever that may be, will produce problems and initial 'pain' for UK?

John Coopey

Sun 1st Sep 2019 00:06

But I thought you Brexiteers said Leave was all about restoring the sovereignty of the British Parliament. Where did that go?

M.C. Newberry

Sat 31st Aug 2019 20:12

JC-there seem to be very selective definitions of "democracy" being bandied about nowadays. The most notable example was
the national referendum vote to depart from the EU. That was
followed by endless in-house spats between the occupants of
Parliament about the terms of that referendum - quite clear to me
in its once and for all/no second chance warnings that only a
nit-wit could argue was confusing to voters.
If, as you say, these are "dangerous times", let the situation be
addressed in a cool reasoned manner by those who have
continually used scare and alarmist techniques to frustrate the
electorate's majority vote to leave the EU - with a sizeable
number of the occupants of Parliament as culpable as any. But hardly a surprise there though when one remembers just who
went along with the successive treaties (without a mandate
from the people) that bound the UK ever closer to "the project".
Is it any wonder so many of them are now playing the devil's
advocate?!

John Coopey

Sat 31st Aug 2019 18:19

You have to be particularly embedded in your opposition to the EU to support Johnson’s replication of what Hitler did, MC.
There is no question that these are dangerous times.

M.C. Newberry

Sat 31st Aug 2019 15:17

Always reliable to keep us all entertained and stimulated. But I
fall back on the basic difference in time and temperament while
adding that the inability of a certain section of the population
to see that choosing to be run by a conglomerate based abroad in
preference to retaining our right to control our affairs is ultimately, the most important concern.

John Coopey

Fri 30th Aug 2019 22:31

I suspect said Milligan was a far braver man than me, Leon.
And thanks for the “Like”. Chrystel too.

<Deleted User> (17847)

Fri 30th Aug 2019 22:05

John, can I take it for granted that you will have like Mr Milligan had re Adolf, a part in Boris's downfall? ?

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