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The Haves and The Have Nots

There have always been haves and have nots

There always will be haves and have nots

Once I was a have not, now I’m a have

Or am I?

I have what I can afford

All that I can’t, I have not

Things out of my realm

I dream about

And that suffices

So now society hangs on the spin of a coin

Crumbles when want is all

 

Where are our role models?

Where did they all go?

Mine, a destitute mother

On a minimum wage

with a paralysed husband…

And yet we never asked why

Or begrudged the wealth that others had

Or the slap that told us we were wrong

‘Peas are getting above the sticks’ she’d say

before those peas were cut down…

 

Something’s gone wrong

And it’s not just the economy

Its not the bankers

The greedy politicians

Or the fat man who drives the jag…

The problem lies

At home.

 

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Comments

tony sheridan

Wed 10th Oct 2012 11:42

Well said, Isobel. Take care, Tony.

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Isobel

Sat 20th Aug 2011 13:06

Thanks for your comments, Neil, Jules, everyone. I am always happy for my poetry to stimulate debate.

Jules - I'm not quite following your argument - I can be a bit dense at times. I very much regret your health problems. Are you attributing them to a violent type of parenting or to a society that hasn't done enough for you - or to both?

I happen to think that our country is far more generous with its people than many others. No child in our society is allowed to starve or go homeless. However, governments can't dicate how a parent spends its money. Out and about one sees a lot of money quite literally going up on smoke...
In what other country can you get your kids teeth straightened out for free? Not in Australia, where people dream of a better life. People have to take out large loans for teeth over there - or leave them crooked. Small wonder that people are having less and less children in such countries - they can't afford to provide for them and have the lifestyle they want.
The only society that can provide absolute financial equality would be a communist one, I guess - and that has already failed to work...

If your poor health is due to parenting, I very much regret that. As I said before, had I ever been beaten by a parent, I would be in the anti smacking camp. There are other ways of disciplining though, that don't involve physical punishment. What I am really saying is that children need to know that an adult is in charge - if they are forced to make everyday decisions for themselves without any authority it causes insecurity - leads to bad decisions.

<Deleted User> (8730)

Sat 20th Aug 2011 11:26

Lots of comments and having read the poem, I can see why.

Here is my response -

Y

A ten inch scar on my head,
two on my arm, one on my hip.
Rheumatoid arthritis and two sticks,
wobbly knees, crinkly hands.
Crohn's disease makes me bleed.
Itchy feet, highs and lows.
A closed left eye.

The question is not why.
It is why not.....

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Neil Fawcett

Tue 16th Aug 2011 23:22

Authority is wallowing in the opportunities these riots have given them. The pathetic sight of kids looting shops for designer clothes and electrical goods is manor from heaven for Authority. They would have briefly been worried that this was a genuine political uprising, but as soon as it became clear that it was nothing more than a few ramshackle bands of lost youth stealing things that they could never afford they were relieved. Now, of course, they have the excuse they need to hunt down these evil doers, hound them out of their homes and lock them up with ridiculous sentences. While Authority continues its merciless assault on the weak and the poor who pay over and over again in blood and tears for the misadventures of Authority. And what do the powerless do? They beat the powerless with their righteous indignation and congratulate Authority for their brutality.

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Isobel

Tue 16th Aug 2011 13:27

Abdicating responsiblity for teaching right and wrong, failing to provide any form of discipline is a kind of neglect, isn't it? I imagine that in a lot of those families it goes hand in hand with giving children no time. It takes time to do any of this and time is one thing modern parents don't have - which would explain to some extent the reasons why a number of rich kids were caught up in this.

The only time where I think parents rightly struggle and can't be automatically blamed, is when drugs are involved. Drugs can alter a nice kid from a nice home, in no time at all. Most families have been touched by them at some level. It isn't easy for anyone to fight chemical addictions and win. I do feel for those parents.

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Graham Sherwood

Mon 15th Aug 2011 22:43

Just been listening to the news about those appearing in court post-rioting.
Mother: He was only caught up in it, he was doing anything, he's only young.
Interviewer: Yes but he did have a hammer strapped to his leg!
Mother: Yes but he's only a kid.

Isobel's right, the parents should all be charged with neglect.

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Gus Jonsson

Mon 15th Aug 2011 11:56

Hi Isobel

I HAVE a Jag....and I Have NOT got a problem with my pleasently cheeky rotundity.....

Chill... give us fat Kats a break!

Missya

Gus x

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Anthony Emmerson

Sat 13th Aug 2011 15:06

Hi Isobel,

Hope you enjoyed your hols.

I think everyone has their own view on this subject, probably all equally as valid. It's a perfect storm of events and their consequences - or non-consequences.

The bankers ripped off society for trillions, were bailed out by the same society and perhaps, most importantly, were seen to largely get away with it. To a lesser extent, MPs fiddled for years, and are probably still fiddling through corporate lobbying by global industries. The press and the police have been seen to have had an extremely unhealthy relationship, feeding off each other.

I guess if you are a member of the so-calloed "disaffected youth" you look at this and think "they've gotten away with it, why shouldn't I?"

In Lincoln's Gettysburg address he commends "government of the people, by the people, for the people." We are a long way from that these days. For me this is the root of the problem and applies equally to all mainstream political persuasions.

Bring back hanging - abolish y-fronts! :)

Regards,

A.E.

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Isobel

Sat 13th Aug 2011 09:42

Thank you Andy. I realise that my beliefs are unpopular on here - unfashionable even. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that I am agreeing with the greater british public rather than looking for less obvious underlying reasons.

Sometimes - just because the baying masses are saying it - doesn't make what they are saying wrong ;-) x

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Isobel

Sat 13th Aug 2011 09:20

I'd agree with you re advertising Ray - it has to account for a lot of the trouble, together with the kind of computer games children now play which encourage antisocial, anti establishment behaviour.

I preferred a quick slap to being marooned in a bedroom for hours. Bedrooms had no toys in them and I liked to play out. My niece uses a 'naughty step' but I find the time it takes to enforce such discipline and the whinging and whining you have to endure quite irritating. I only ever had a very rare slap cos by a certain age I recognised authority and didn't challenge it. Had that slap, ever turned into a beating, I would no doubt be in the anti slapping camp.

What I am trying to say is that children need boundaries as much as they need love and food. Without them, they are flailing around and insecure. Watch any of these super nanny programmes and you can see it. How can we exert any influence over what our kids do if they have no respect for us? Respcect comes from being in control and calling the shots until they are old enough to make the right decisions for themselves.

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Andy N

Sat 13th Aug 2011 09:11

nice stuff, isobel. i thought it was from the heart this piece as i went along.. lot of good bits and lines here, but i particularly liked the ending.. well done.. hope to see you soon on the circuit (resting at the moment until october) xx

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Ray Miller

Fri 12th Aug 2011 22:32

Yes, there's always been haves and have-nots but 50-60 years of consumerism, a society that relies on people buying things they don't need and 24/7 advertising reinforcing the multiplication of wants - this is a new phenomenon and is taking its toll, I think.
Discipline doesn't have to be instilled by smacking, though an occasional slap wouldn't harm, I agree, no more than would the occasional fag. But what about those who don't stop at an occasional slap? There are plenty of them and for their sakes and their children's sakes I can easily side with the anti-smacking lobby.
I think you want "spin of a coin" not spin on a coin.

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Isobel

Fri 12th Aug 2011 20:03

Thank you Lynn and Francine - I appreciate your comments.

Francine, you are a great believer in the power of love. Nowhere is love more needed than in the home - elsewhere I find it is always suspect, shared, questionable. The love of parents, dished out with a little bit of discipline would put pay to so many of this world's problems.

I accept that metaphorical looting goes on with the Haves - but two wrongs don't make a right - if you see where I'm coming from. I don't expect any of those rioters sat about discussing the integrity of their political leaders before they started looting...

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Lynn Dye

Fri 12th Aug 2011 19:47

Well done, Isobel, we all have our opinions and yours are very well expressed. I see both sides of most arguments, so nothing new here! I enjoyed your poem. xx

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Francine

Fri 12th Aug 2011 19:38

I understand where you are coming from - to raise compassionate, respectful, responsible children should be everyone's aspiration. It is so much more than that though. It brings up the Nature versus Nurture issue too... One can do everything right and still get it wrong, and vice versa.

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Isobel

Fri 12th Aug 2011 18:36

I'm not wishing to resurrect any arguments here - I think we've all done the riots to death. I just felt like I wanted to say my piece in a blog, like everyone else. It's the first serious thing I've written in ages. Not great poetry but very heart felt :)

Peace to all. x

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