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Versus

This is a verse and not a fuckin' stanza!

Why use six letters when five saves paper?

I'd rather turn plough than stand in a chamber.

 

Agricultural language suits this bard

and poetry is but a topiary art -

that's what I gather from your cutting remarks.

 

I'm lower case type that inhabits the basement

where jars and saucepans in haphazard placement

create an imperfect kind of enjambment

 

employed to collect red wine and sushi,

filter and ferment into something fruity -

that's my trickle-down theory of beauty.

 

Up in the loft they write for eternity,

while I'm beset by a sense of urgency -

the soles of my feet forever burning me

 

so I commit each metre to memory

before upper storeys fall on my legacy -

poetic justice when I miss a penalty.

 

 

◄ Melancholy Baby

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Ray Miller

Sat 8th Oct 2011 22:12

Thanks, Rachel. Yeah, you surely went off on one there. It's a good poem, though I do say so myself, apart from the last line, which even I don't understand now - I think I meant "escape a penalty" though fuck knows why.

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Rachel Bond

Sat 8th Oct 2011 16:51

haha i have just reread this poem and all those comments. i have no idea why i wanted to apply the golden number theory to this poem, i must have just discovered it on a late night documentary...it was 1.30 am. so i agree, my comments - rubbish
your poem - ok
best line - filter and ferment into something fruity.
maybe you should stop missing them penalties!

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Rachel Bond

Fri 6th Aug 2010 00:52

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=fibonacci+in+nature&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=X1BbTK3WBpi80gTx7KBu&sa=X&oi=image_result_group

&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDEQsAQwAw&biw=1392&bih=726

these images express the golden ratio of fibonacci sequence in nature.
ive no idea why your poem reminded me of the rule now other than because its complex structure forms a simple image that is beautiful and can be appreciated on either a complex or simple level.
This mathematical rule either understands or expresses numerous occurances in natures beauty...fascinating

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Ray Miller

Thu 5th Aug 2010 11:56

Isobel. edgy academic = mad professor. No ta. I'll ignore the Black humour.

Rachel. I actually googled "golden rule in nature" there's so many of them! No silver or bronze rules that us lower classes might aspire to live by, all is golden. So which one do you mean?

Rachel Bond

Wed 4th Aug 2010 12:09

ok.
writing which is academic = all writing is academic. the act of writing is an academic pastime.
This piece of writing highlights that and changes it...
a clever thing to do and therefore another act of academia...ironic!
however its humorous and its edge can be felt making it altogether something else :)

phew...comments about comments about my perceptions of writing about your perceptions...its getting like when two mirrors face.
have you looked up the golden rule in nature its fascinating :)
to truly avoid the academic...you could always go plough a field:)

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Isobel

Wed 4th Aug 2010 09:36

To quote Cilla, this has turned into a lorra lorra laughs... How about edgy academic - would that appease you?

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Ray Miller

Wed 4th Aug 2010 09:27

Right, Rachel, I get what you're saying and thanks.I only shudder a little bit at "writing which is academic". I'm supposed to be humorous and edgy!

Rachel Bond

Tue 3rd Aug 2010 22:44

haha...no i always write like that !! anyway maybe i could explain it in person...ill try here:
pull together amazing arrangements of words = make sense of another persons poetic expression by using a shared understanding i.e dictionary definition.
making real the images in an earthy foundation = taking something from words and translating it to an real physical invocation of the act of labour, the experience of words read in the mind translating to real experiences based on a basic shared memory with other writers...i.e we all know what a plough is and in this context it is grounding the elitism you highlight that academics may benefit from a days toil in agriculture.
that your arrangements of words around the description of the plough metaphor give the translation over to something that is down to earth however as you are expressing it through writing which is academic, and so the irony is stimulating :)
i hope this is what you meant to do but if not, hey, its a groovy perception:)
shit! make any more sense?? i thought not.
i like to overly elaborate on things :)
only i know what I mean!

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Isobel

Tue 3rd Aug 2010 15:19

Tee hee - glad you noticed...
Tell me I can't use a word and I just have to use it - now what does that say about me? xx

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Ray Miller

Tue 3rd Aug 2010 15:11

Rachel, not entirely sure what you're on about but I note it was half past one in the morning when you posted so I'm just nodding my head in agreement!

Isobel. Verses they are, verses, not stanzas. Stop being confrontational!

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Isobel

Tue 3rd Aug 2010 08:57

Very confrontational Ray...
I like this one cos it made me think about the whole process of creating poetry.
I would agree with Rachel on the 'trickle down theory of beauty' - the idea of poetry being fermented and brewed is a great one. In fact I enjoyed the imagery in all of your stanzas...

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Rachel Bond

Tue 3rd Aug 2010 01:24

wow...interesting. ill read again, read and learn!
first read I wasnt aware i could pull those amazing arrangements of words together but I really enjoyed that sensation, of an unusual gathering of scenes and images enticing the brain to make real the images grounded in a real earthy foundation. yet complex. like a natural 'golden rule' expression in nature. a hopeful message that the dull resonates a deeper shine xx

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Ray Miller

Mon 2nd Aug 2010 09:29

Thank you, Rachel."humorous yet edgy" that'll do me, that's pretty much the goal. I don't think there is a difference between a verse and a stanza, but stanza seems to have become the norm amongst a certain type....Etymologically a verse was a turn of the plough or furrow and stanza was a waiting chamber - hence line 3(I don't just throw these things together!)

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Rachel Bond

Sun 1st Aug 2010 12:09

i like this..i found it humorous yet edgy
employed to collect red wine and sushi,

filter and ferment into something fruity -

that's my trickle-down theory of beauty.

i like the trickle down theory of beauty...

I also loved the basement 'verse'. i still dont know the academic difference of the verse and stanza...but i like your explanation better. your choice of objects and place are familiar the poem is tangible and real on cerebral subject...i like work that is grounded. i like its normalcy unlike the pretensiousness of my own loft.

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