Defense Of The Drunken Poet
many thanks for the kind comments.
concerning that particular line-
my defense, this comes from the experience of actually telling the li po story to a girl friend and her mother. they joked how stupid it seemed, to die in such a way. they were joking of course, and conversely drunk at the time, but the point resonated. women, in my experience have a practicality and vividness towards reality that passes men by or at least seem less victims of -isms and drunken flights of romance.
a broad sweep i know.
- side note i was reading the collected interviews of bob dylan- he was asked about the song 'Sweetheart like you' which contained the ideologically challenging line-
'A woman like you should be at home. That's where you belong. Taking care of somebody nice. Who don't know how to do you wrong.'
his defense- he was addressing a certain type of woman 'I'm not talkin' to Margaret Thatcher or anything.'
needless to say all the women here are poets and probably not the Margaret Thatcher type.
Another great poem, Tom. I comment before reading any other viewpoints. These are simple words expressing deep ideas with undeniable finesse. 'wobbling moons' is suberb. The 'hounds' of war? Or 'hounds' in chase of anything with intent to kill - people, places - or poetry?
Having duly read the other comments, I think the second verse about women and their general disgust for folly is more true than not, especially if the folly-doer is drunk. Generally we don't see glamour in inebriation.
I guess I am just a folly-follower! In all my relationships I seem to be the one who'd fall in the lake to catch the moon. All the lovely men in my life would have been fiddling around with the boat, or a map, or a torch, or a compass, or telling me how many zillion miles away the moon is! But I guess that's why I loved them! Ooops . . SPLASH!
a folly of many a poet !
<Deleted User> (7164)
Mon 15th Feb 2010 11:42
I love this poem.
I also love folly (good natured folly anyway.) :-)
Janet.x
<Deleted User> (7642)
Mon 15th Feb 2010 10:56
really lovely poem, really enjoyed reading it..perhaps the bullfrogs are just concerned that if they don't croak continually, silly pranks may lead to their dearly beloved asleep for a thousand years :-)
Sorry Dave, I have to come in to support Ann. The fact that Ann and I can both appreciate the ideas behind this poem tells me that you just can't blanket all woman with such comments. I'm guessing I know who the rasping bullfrogs might be echoing....
Nonetheless I like the crafting behind the poem and the thought that went into it.
Sorry Ann - have to come in to support Tom on this one. Women do love to feel superior to us with our (allegedly) silly pranks and escapades, and the (supposedly) daft notions which give rise to them. Nice one Tom
Beautifully written (as usual) Tom. But what is this "world famous female disgust for folly"? I hadn't thought of such a thing before. Do you think women are so sensible, or maybe a bit boring without souls to yearn for the impossible dream? I wonder! xx
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Ann Foxglove
Tue 16th Feb 2010 07:08
Re the falling in the water thing. I see it not as men have this frame of mind, women have that one, but maybe poets/artists or would-be poets/artists have this frame of mind and un-poets/artists have the other way of looking at things.