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'It's depressing': Luke Wright's 'old-fashioned rant' about spoken word on TV ads

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Leading performance poet Luke Wright has sounded a sceptical note about poetry on TV adverts such as the recent Nationwide building society campaign, saying it is “depressing” to see it being used in such a way. In his blog he says: “There is a current trend in advertising to use ‘spoken word’. I fell in love with live poetry because it was subversive and anti-establishment. It’s so depressing seeing that on adverts now.

“I’m not blaming these young poets – there’s loads of people I know and like who have done adverts. I know the money is hugely tempting, but I think they should think long and hard about and doing it. The things I am most embarrassed by in my career are commissions I wrote about things I didn’t really care about, and now they’re out there on the internet for ever. If I could go back I wouldn’t have accepted those jobs.”

In his poem, ‘Renegade Poets (in Adverts)’, which begins by referring to the advert for the Jeep Renegade made by George the Poet in 2015, he says:

 

     Because I remember ’98 – an arts centre in Essex

     the first time I saw verse spat out with love and snarl and menace

     and everything about that gig said: we will not submit

     that art is not a compromise, and if it is, it’s shit.

 

     And that’s what poetry should do, not sell us mortgages.

    Don’t be another corporate tool – say something to the kids.

 

The poem also mentions Roger McGough's voice-overs for Waitrose, and John Cooper Clarke's ads for McCain chips. Wright goes on to say in his blog: “There doesn’t seem to be much of a discussion around this on the live poetry scene, so I thought I’d try and spark a debate. And yes, I’m aware it’s a more nuanced thing that the poem suggests. Yes, there are shades of grey, but I wanted to write a good old-fashioned rant … I’ve not seen anyone take this stance on it, so I will.”

Fellow poet Clare Pollard has defended his "brave" approach, saying: "He makes a living as a poet and has the profile to get approached for these things, so he is burning a few bridges here, drawing a line. However, most people I saw online seemed to be annoyed with him. Like he touched some kind of nerve. Apparently adverts are good profile for poetry. And naturally poets need the money. Apparently, no one has a right to criticise."

She went on to say: "The Nationwide ads are strung together from soft-focus cliches (churning stomaches and melting hearts, knees-up and cuppas, dad dancing and hero’s welcomes) and reinforce, in the juxtaposition of poem and product, certain messages: that a building society lending money is doing you a ‘kindness’, or that house ownership is a necessary part of creating a family home.

"So I don’t see these adverts and think ‘well at least they used real poets’. I don’t see anything better in them than any other jingle. And I think we’re allowed to question whether presenting these words to people as poetry actually does poetry any good." You can read her full blog here 

 

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Background: 'It's a marriage of my words and their message' - Matt Abbott

 

 

 

 

 

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John Coopey

Mon 13th Mar 2017 18:02

I wonder if Dyson would be interested in offering me a commission for this?
https://www.writeoutloud.net/public/blogentry.php?blogentryid=65430

Russell Thompson

Wed 8th Mar 2017 13:28

Surely the only surprising thing about any of this is that anyone's surprised. I mean - 'Luke Wright wholeheartedly embraces use of spoken word in TV ads' - hmm, not going to happen, is it?

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Trevor Wainwright

Mon 6th Mar 2017 14:39

Once the adverts were better than the programmes, now it's all mostly dross. Still the issue gives pseudo celebs a chance to think they have a worthwhile point and opinion to foist on others just like so called real celebs think they do too.

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David Blake

Sun 5th Mar 2017 14:16

Just don't watch adverts. I have little to no opinion on this. Agree mostly with what Trevor Alexander said.

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 2nd Mar 2017 14:12

Perhaps those wishing to become performance poets should join Equity so that their rights were protected correctly. There seems little difference to me in an actor's recitations and a performance poets work. Worth considering?

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John Coopey

Thu 2nd Mar 2017 13:25

Quite so, Laura. But I would go even further.
As worldwide fans know I specialise in cerebral poetry of a worthy type which addresses complex issues of the human condition. If anyone, however, would like to slip me a bob or two to write something a little less thoughtful I would reluctantly accept. Please form an orderly queue.

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Laura Taylor

Thu 2nd Mar 2017 10:25

Let's look at the facts. Nationwide is a mutual building society. It's not a bank, an arms dealer, Exxon/Shell, right-wing, 'ist' of any kind, is not exploitative, has no shareholders, and is paying poets - not to get up there and go 'wow isn't Nationwide BRILLIANT?', but to write their own words based on an idea. They're commissioning poetry. None of us start out with the aim of making money. That's not why we wrote our first poem, and it isn't why we continue to write. In the last couple of weeks I've been asked to write a poem for a wedding, and one for a political organisation. I'm happy to do both, and I write all kinds of different stuff, not just subversive/political. I LOVE writing. But I now also do a certain amount of gigs that mean if I didn't get paid, I would end up paying to perform. Is that right? No. Of course not. Obviously, benefit gigs are different, and you take the paying ones when you can.

I am delighted that poetry is to the forefront here. National telly exposure for poets and poetry? That's worth celebrating imo. We are usually viewed as the scum of the art world, 'anyone can do what we do', what do you want money for? But then folk will happily pay bands or singers to perform.

I know some of the poets who have done the ads, and they are people of integrity. I know for sure that if the commission came from an unsound source, they simply wouldn't do it. Seems there is no credit being given here for people's choices or intelligence.



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Trevor Alexander

Wed 1st Mar 2017 15:37

I write poems. They're probably not very good, and I don't have a particularly high profile, so I'm not going to be asked to write something for a national advertising campaign. However, if I was, I hope I'd have the integrity not write about something I fundamentally disagree with.

That said, I'd be happy to get the exposure to a wider audience, and who knows, encourage dormant poets out there to engage.

On the subject of the young firebrands who say they'll never advertise, and then later do? People change. It's a fact of life. When I was a lad (yes, that old chestnut!), there was only one style of music worth my attention. Now, I like a very wide range from classical through to heavy metal via the blues and jazz. The only thing the youngsters are guilty of is not realising this at the start of their lives.

So! There's MY mini-rant done!

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Graham Sherwood

Wed 1st Mar 2017 12:48

Isn't it just a tad ironic that Nationwide's latest catch, JoBell lives on a canal barge?

I think?

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Trevor Wainwright

Mon 27th Feb 2017 14:18

Everybody has their price

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Julian (Admin)

Mon 27th Feb 2017 12:56

Hmm. And if they had asked you, Luke?

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Trevor Wainwright

Sat 25th Feb 2017 16:54

Better things to do with my time than worry about the one eyed corner dweller and the shit that's on it.

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suki spangles

Fri 24th Feb 2017 15:43

Laura,

You'll get your Pulitzer Prize for that piece of research!

Anyway, at least he got us talking about this, no harm done.

Suki

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Laura Taylor

Fri 24th Feb 2017 14:21

"I’m a poet, theatre maker and broadcaster. Every year I write a new poetry stage show and schlep it around arts centres, theatres, pubs and festivals. Not, as some claim, because I’m “committed to taking poetry to the people” but because it pays my mortgage. And I love it."

First lines on the home page of Mr L Wright's website.

Nuff said?

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John Coopey

Fri 24th Feb 2017 09:08

I feel so strongly about this that henceforth I shall boycott cheese, burgers, breakdown assistance, supermarkets, leisure parks and banks. I'm none too happy about Grecian Urns either.

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suki spangles

Fri 24th Feb 2017 05:39

There's a touch of gurning sanctimony from both sides on this. A curse on both their houses.

Also, I suppose, one can only "sell out" here if one articulates a strong anti-advertising stance, only to do the opposite some time later when the lure of cash is too strong to resist. The former "edgy artistic persona" product placement will then require revision to accommodate the new reality. I'm cynical.

I recall certain comedians back in the day who stated they would never advertise, and then a few years on, once they got their mansion, and their MBE, and their cocaine habit, hey, it's time to live in the real world, and advertise dog food or toilet roll. The Sandinista no longer needed their support by that time anyway.

If you present yourself only as an entertainer, and not some serious artiste, then knock yourself out, and advertise banks, bombs or whatever. Just don't write poems against bankers and arms dealers. Problem solved.

I hate to say this, but I can feel a poem coming on..

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Thu 23rd Feb 2017 17:43

tv ads have increasingly used spoken word formats and actual poems for a while now, it's nothing particularly new - think Guinness and all those beating drums and rousing images set to a poetic dialogue. So Nationwide comes along and uses actual poets - well bfd. I saw a couple and they left me feeling pretty meh, like 99.9% of tv ads do - they exist to sell you something that most likely you don't want and don't need.

as Graham said, the Nationwide tapped into a current cultural fashion and has no doubt benefited from new customers who identified with that message. Good for them and good for the poets who made a few quid from the establishment. It means nothing more and tomorrow will mean even less - and those same whining culture vultures that moaned about poets selling themselves out will have moved on to the next 'thing' to rant about.

Luke Wright 'wanted to write a good old-fashioned rant' to 'spark a debate' - and no doubt in the process direct yet more internet traffic to his blog - and gigs - and bank balance (I assume he has one, maybe not with the Nationwide). The process of being Luke Wright is no different from the Nationwide being, er, the Nationwide. I feel a big yawn coming on.

anyways, there's my mini-rant to add to the pile.

Anyone wanna buy a poem? I have a buy one get one free offer running over the weekend and the first ten orders will receive a free signed mug with a picture of yours truly with his cut-out birds on the side (which is itself a limited edition run of only 500). Payment can be made direct into my Nationwide account ? kerching!!


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M.C. Newberry

Thu 23rd Feb 2017 15:56

There is something about performing in public that has an
appeal to the virulent of view - see "Speakers Corner" in
Hyde Park, London for one example. But poetry is about
communication across the board and not just hijacking the spoken
word for the purpose of spewing forth resentment and aggravation.

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Thu 23rd Feb 2017 15:18

I wish they'd asked me ... #PoetForHire :/

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 23rd Feb 2017 12:58

The problem with advertising companies is that they are very fickle (they need to be) and readily tap into the current "thing" in this case the spoken word.

Don't worry it will pass, nobody is going to get rich doing it on the Tele and very soon PP will revert to its more comfortable edgy position amongst the arts.

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Stu Buck

Thu 23rd Feb 2017 11:58

laughable nonsense.

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John Coopey

Thu 23rd Feb 2017 11:49

Jeez! We try to encourage people to write, be creative, support them on WOL when they do; poetry gets a national profile from the current usage in adverts and guess what? "It's demeaning, prostituting, a sell-out". What a complete retrenchment into elitism.
Give me "A million housewives everyday
Pick up a tin of beans and say
'BEANZ MEANZ HEINZ'"
to your worthy, pompous and self-indulgent hand-wafting that passes for performance poetry.

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Graham Sherwood

Thu 23rd Feb 2017 11:37

Dear Pot, ...........Love Kettle!

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