You're not doing my street-cred any good, Izzy, when you find my erotica ("The Pit and the Pendulum") funny!

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Thanks Isobel for comment on Touching the Void - a bit of an odd poem really that maybe I should have explained. The title was for a writing exercise at my writer's group. And it made me think of a Cornish artist called Peter Lanyon who I really admire. He died in a gliding accident in the 1960s. There's a far better poem about him by W.S. Graham called "The Thermal Stair". The image I've used to go with the poem is a painting by him.

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Is "opinionated" the same as "bolshy?"

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Thanks for your comments on The Winter Gardens, Isobel. It's easy to poke fun at the blokes in cloth caps, but I think we've lost something along the way, too.

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Isobel, I'm glad you like "Passing By". I
guess most of us can recall that memorable
moment when eyes meet and sparks fly - but nothing comes of it...and this brings youth back, for it is certainly a magic part of that
time of life.

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A strummer but evidently not a singer! (You obviously missed my previous attempts to top the Hit Parade - "Everybody's Gone Serfin'" and "Nights in Prestatyn").
You show me your lederhosen and I'll show you my bratwurst.

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Thanks for commenting on Mistress Rachel. Not quite non-rhyming; the end-line rhymes were consonant rhymes "cage", "liege", "oblige" etc. I did do one some time ago, Attila, which was a structure of mid-line rhyme, end-line non-rhyme.

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Sorry to interrupt you ladies' mucky women's talk, but thankyou for taking a look at my Clitoris.

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Haha - I shall stop derailing JCs thread and reply here instead!

Well yeh, totally - sadly it's very common for people to just not bother learning how each others bodies work for the best...what a loss eh?

Heehee - a bloke I knew once confessed to 'learning everything' he knew about sex from porn films. I was AGHAST! Didn't know where to start to discuss that. So I just fell about laughing and was immersed in this huge sense of shocked disbelief, that he actually thought that was real and true!! Even now, oo about 6 or 7 years after he told me, I still delight in telling other people about it in front of him. I figured the shame of it might provoke him into finding out the reality of it all :D

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cheeky bugger! but true my arse will no doubt bore me soon. thanks for the pic i think we did well in creating that 'innocent' look. innocent yet possibly on acid, bit like alice ;)

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Hi Isobel,as I'm a virgin to write out loud and the protocol of comments, blogs and electronic discussions. I've only just read your stuff i.e. Made of Love. Brilliant! I've got a 14 year old just like that. I wonder if our parents thought the same about us at that age?

I was thinking of coming to the Tudor on thursday cos I want to learn more about different styles etc. If so, whats the protocol? Do you just turn up with your stuff and put your name down for reading or do you have to contact anyone first?

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What ho, Isobel? Many thanks for your comments on Father and Son and Walford. I am unsure of the causality between Father and Son and the discussion I started on Better Looking Poets which was turned Feudianly by Rachel and you into a bum fantasy. If I have planted pleasing thoughts into your heads then, in the words of the hymn, "my living has not been in vain".
Unlike Father and Son (which was genuine marriage guidance counselling) Walford was pure whimsy.

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My own fault for being too ambiguous within my writes..so I have yet again changed the last verse to add a few more clue lol..now I am done with it..shelved!!! Thanks for your time Izz. x

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It is a he (updated again) my lad, my youngest lol x

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Cheers Izz..funnily enough I woke up with an edit going round in my head and have just changed a whole verse and the titile!....ha ha ha, yes I saw some sights.. ;)

Ps this is a true story!

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Hi again Isobel Thanks for comments on The Wren Boy. Glad you liked my 'spiders'!

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Hi Isobel Glad you didn't think I was giving a lecture or teaching you how to suck eggs! I'll check out your other poem. I've actually made a small change to the first couple of stanzas so that it's a bit less 'chopped up'. I'm also putting on another one I've been working on which goes back to some distant memories of a Christmas holiday I spent in Ireland when I was 7 or 8.

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Isobel
Thanks for your comment. It seems by your writing you see the world the way you want to and I admire that quality in a poet. Look within. Look beyond. Look out! Happy New Year to you too.
J. Otis

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Isobel
Very kind of you to comment.
I have to admit though that my nickname at one of my previous employers was 'Teflon', because when any shit came flying, I made sure it didn't stick to me
Be good

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Hi again, Isobel, Just checked out some of yours. Yes your lines are more 'end stopped' than mine, but within the lines your rhythms are quite complex and your sentences often flow over the line endings. I don't think what we're doing is that much different. I maybe just go for what looks like a more traditional looking form but let my speaking voice play against it. The line breaks give you the opportunity of giving added emphasis to certain words. THat's what I think I'm doing - but then who knows!

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Hi Isobel Interesting comments. I don't really think I'm 'distorting' language in order to fit it into some unnatural scheme. Just a question of rhythm. If you read any kind of poetry from rap to Shakespeare you have to get a rhythm going that's different from normal speech or prose. The iambic beat is the natural rhythm of English poetry. My problem with lots of 'verse' these days is that it isn't verse at all just chopped up prose. I also don't mind the sentences flowing over the verse lines either, just adds a bit of interest. It's a bit like the difference between jazz and pop - a bit of syncopation!

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Hi Isobel glad you liked my 'bar' poem. Yes, he was certainly a character. The structure is more or les iambic pentameter & I try to get it sitting on the page so that it looks right for me, but of course you never know what other's will make of it. I also like reading my own stuff to an audience, so maybe I should start loading up some MP3s - although that is all a bit technological for me!

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Hi Isobel

Wish I could be so quality prolific like you.

Ken xx

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thanks for the comment on my poem, Isobel - haven't thought of what you mentioned so will get it amended.

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Thanks for your comments on the 2011 review, Isobel.It was fun to do. Hope you had a good Christmas? I'm still hatching a plan for a week up north one day that would take in a night at the Tudor! Greg

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Hi; LOL.. thanks for the comment, Isobel over the 12 days after Christmas... I actually had a peaceful Christmas here for once.. Had it with my family and chilled big style.. Will make up for it in the new year I think. Hope you are good x

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Hi Isobel. Thank you for your nice comments on my poem "He Didn't Care."
The story I had in mind is that his wife knew he loved her very much. But he was in shock and his family and friends couldn't see this.
I took the advice of John Coopey and wrote a second poem entitled "He Didn't Care Too."

Thanks again.

Happy Holidays to you and yours.

Shirley

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Thanks for comments Isobel. I grew up under the constant threat of the mushroom cloud if the Cold War had turned Hot. We schoolchildren were told by the Jesuits during the Cuban crisis, that at no time were we to be more than four minutes away from the chapel as that was all the warning we would get before we got incinerated. Four Minutes was written to try and convey this to a generation brought up to think warfare is just a computer game. Our student protests were anti-war – todays protests are about cash.
References: to Journey’s End is to the play by R.C. Sherriff.
Runnymede, this was our school playing field.
JFK, President Kennedy, visited Runnymede Magna Carta memorial.
“irregular motions “etc from Catholic Catechism, meant ‘wanking’ to us of course.
And yes, boarding school was brutal then.

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Thanks for your view Isobel.I am sick of the stereotype of so-called "Real Men" in the media-especially that on TV-which potrays men as foul mouthed, loud mouthed boors and bores(like those who joke about killing cyclists or shooting trade-unionists).
Real men,just like real women, can be weak and stupid, but they can also be sensitive,vulnerable,and emotionally intimidated and damaged by aggressive verbal and physical behaviour from women.

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Thanks Isobel. That was me at the end of the course, so I learned a huge amount! x

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Yes, you are right about "Depression" title. Thanks.
I had thought of calling it The Castle but reckoned that was too Kafkaesque. Might settle on The Fortress

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Hi Isobel
Whilst I am still trying to figure out whether I am more like cystitis, constipation or thrush, I thought I should thank you for your kind comment ;-)) on Inevitable
This is, to some extent, what was going through my mind waiting for 6:30
But am I the only person who is immediately convinced that everything that is on the 'good' horizon, is bound to get fucked up?
Get the inevitable out of the way, and then you can get on with 'normal' life

I took the liberty of excluding myself from the list of candidates to be likened to a period. I think I'm more of an irritant than a curse. But you can correct me if I'm wrong ;-)))))))))))))))

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Hi Isobel, no this story is not actual, it's a modern Christmas story in verse. I'm happy though to chat to all on the street, the reasons people ask for money is interesting and sometimes genuine.

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"Book Early" (Fred Pontin)

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Hi isobel, thank you for commenting on my work. not many do so all comments are appreciated. I took not of the input and thought about shortening the last serious effort, but on reflection wanted to keep it as a story as i feel that all is relevant.

i dunno if you know the film 'The Hill' Starring Sean Connery. They are in a glasshouse (military prison) battling a sadistic guard.

The last line in the poem refers to that guard, who in the film is called Williams, and i suppose we all have our Williams to battle.

thank you once again

may you and yours have a top christmas

best wishes

mike

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Hi Isobel
6:30
You're right pretty much. The poem is the outcome of a specific buzz that was going round and round in my head that had caused a broken night's sleep.
Snow permitting, I'll see you on Thursday

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Thanks for your comments on "Our Tom", Isobel.
I read it to him and gave it to him framed for his 21st birthday. Apparently it's on his bedroom desk! There really wasn't any sadness at his leaving.
He's always been a smashing lad, a bit unlucky with the girls but he could make a fortune as a cruise ship gigolo - he has an attraction for women of a "certain age".

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bullshitticus bullshiticus nothing more prodigious on my page
tis all the rage ;) x

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Hi Isobel
For starters, thanks as usual, for taking the time to read and comment
I think your idea is right. I also thought it would be good to perform, but I'm not sure how long I'd be able to maintain my German accent.
I posted 'Hey'up Dave' a couple of weeks ago, which I also thought would be good to perform (and you know how little I think of myself as performer)
I'd been thinking (strongly) of coming over to the next Tudor and having a go (the venues round here seem to be getting thinner and thinner). It would also be nice to see you obviously.
As either Hey'up Dave or Auf Wiedersehen would take about 4 or 5 minutes to perform, I'd have to pick one or the other
I'd beeen favouring Hey'up because it's a piss-artists answer to all our current woes (appropriate for the Xmas do at the Tudor?), but I'd welcome your thoughts

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Thanks Isobel for the comment on Automated doors poem there is a little of an explantation under the poem.. :o)

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Hi Isobel,
Thanks for the comments on Man Flu.
I'm working on the recording idea.
See you at the Tudor.
Dave

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Also, i was quite lookin forward to the naked revolution on WOL, thought that once a few had got the ball rolling, we'd see thousands of quirky shots as profile images. Ah well.

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It is indeed my favourite picture from the shoot. Especially as it doesn't show off my 'concentration camp' physique quite so much.

True Manna was supposed to get a few people thinking. I'm going through one of those phases. I think that organised religion has it's place, it's just a shame it causes so many issues and divisions. When really, in essence, they're pretty much all on the same path. So why can't they at least hold hands on the walk?

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Hi Isobel;

thanks for the comment over 'Now and then'.. Not much to add to it, apart from you were spot on with what you said about it.. I wrote it cheer Cathy up who was quite down and it did the job.. See you soon somewhere at a gig hopefully but glad you enjoyed it.. x

Andy N x

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Thanks for your help re pic Isobel, though sadly your profile pic that I glimpsed on my Blackberry, whilst digesting your advice seems to have gone : (
Now I will never know whether yours or Winston's is the best!

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Thanks for comment on There's an App.
Dave

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:o)

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They are called buggerers and nobody likes to admit they exsist !! especially as they profess to know all the answers. But technically I suppose you are right there are three types ;-)XX
And lo! a buggerer came into our midsts and spake good words......

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Have you any idea what it was about? its a long time since I have written anything, and I cannot remember a poem from the association of it's picture after this amount of time. XXX

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Thanks for taking the time to read my poem and for your kind comments : )

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