My mother would always say that using an expletive is for people who do not have a good enough vocabulary. I never heard my father swear!

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Be you associated with Mole Valley Farmers - the agricultural suppllies superstores??

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Hi Ruth,

Thanks for your positive response to my poem.

Have a great weekend!

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Thanks Mae, I did this a little while back, almost deleted the audio, not a great standard. I definitely like writing more.

J. x

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Oh! my! God! You are gifted! Jason bravo! Words are not enough here, I got goosebumps. Excellent!
Thank you!?
Mae

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"Familiarity breeds contempt". Or how the oft-derided clichés
speak timely truth to us. The sudden unexpected use of a swear
word intended to create an effect within a context is within the
realm of acceptability. Let me give my thought in verse: ?
"Fuck, fuck, fuck", the workman said,
As he drove the nail in
And missed the wood
(His aim wasn't good)
To pierce bone and skin.
To engage in the use of swear words for "show" is merely being a
show-off.
But - an enjoyable discussion on a contentious subject.

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Original item by Don Matthews

Sometimes the true power and beauty of a message is emphasised by its brevity. How lovely to think of two living organisms that live in an almost perfect symbiotic relationship holding hands as their different, "Bloods," pump through similar veins. Excellent writing.

J. x

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

I like your analogy of knife and fork for m/f says so much

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Original item by Chrystel Roberts

Thanks Adam yes back to nature to refresh our heads, glad that line spoke to you.

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Ha, ha Nigel well I do have a little crystal ball actually. Good poem though thanks, I'll write a crystal ball poem next

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

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Yes Devon I enjoy that, exploring the interconnectedness of it all, just channelling a bit of Native American Energy here

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Cheers Leon, I was trying to get into the simplicity of Haiku when I wrote this one

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Thanks Don glad you liked it.

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

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Leaves leaving....

I love lines like that.

Clearly we both moved from the political back to things which actually matter. Thank you for your comments on my compost.

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Nigel - what does the gypsy lady (looking in ball) see my twirling neurons leading to? Hope not poetic doom. Would she say glory if I pay her more?.....

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

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Gypsy lady
crystal ball
says that
each vein
is travelling
to your
poetic future.

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

I feel you’ve gone off at a tangent, Don.

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Hi Don,

I appreciate your comments regarding my work. I was rather nervous about starting my blog, but you- along with a few others- have given me the confidence to continue.

Your poem ‘Poets Should Have Standards' is excellent, and I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments expressed.

You are my favourite profile for the following reasons: You're ‘drawn to rhyme'; you mentioned Oscar Wilde in your poem ‘Comma Dilemma' AND I enjoy reading your poems!

Have an awesome weekend

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Original item by Don Matthews

Devon

You have raised an interesting and important point which hadn't occurred to me. I think my reasoning is correct. Stand-up comics who use foul language for cheap thrills and shock value are catering to an audience who are hungry for this. Also think Gordon Ramsay.

Readers of our poetry don't want this sort of treatment. Our clientele is more selective, refined. As you say Devon:

"it does little to enhance a poem, but instead, in many cases, diminishes the impact of what the writer is attempting to be conveyed"

So true Devon. Thankyou for raising this.

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Yes, Ruth. The interconnectivity of life. Well done.

D

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Don,

I agree with you about using language for cheap thrills and pure shock value, it does little to enhance a poem, but instead, in many cases, diminishes the impact of what the writer is attempting to convey.

D

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sad though to think how accepted as a normal everyday word F has become, when, where and how can we draw the line of decency. I have used it but as Dev kind of suggests only to promote anger in likes of rants and so on.

Cheer's Don for making a fair point.

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Yes very much so, but as you say with a limited audience. I do some poetry on two of them, Radio General in Warrington has been going for a long long time, most are on the internet now as well?Thanks

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Original item by Rick Varden

I do like the comparison you've made here Chrystal...And the rhyming.....And the chosen picture. A neat package if you know what I mean

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Original item by Chrystel Roberts

love the very clever use of simplicity Ruth.

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

Yes John. Don't forget your Sine Rule. Opposite over Hypotenoose. Must knowledge for making perfect Right Angle Trangle poems......

Comment is about TRIG'S BROOM (blog)

Original item by John Coopey

I like this Ruth.....

Comment is about Brother Leaf (blog)

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My lizards
Little skinks
Dinosaurs?
dk don't think

Don't believe
All you hear
Lots fake news
Goes in your ear

Oh, I see
What you mean
Egg hatchout
Lizard seen

Much like dinosaurs
In a sense......

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Original item by d.knape

My favorite word is shit. But it's not found in the gutter.

Someone in this thread said, and this is what I object to , is the use of foul language as a cheap thrill purely for shock effect. Like some standup comics do - cheap, gutter level jokes and the audience laugh their heads off.

Having said that there is a place for it in our work. An acquired skill.
I have used it in one of mine somewhere in the past. As this poem says I was using the language which was common usage for these people.

I guess we all have our own individual 'code of ethics' we apply to our work. And they vary greatly. I guess I was trying to say I don't like poets stooping in the muck looking for purely cheap shock thrills.

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They live among us.

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How does your favourite word fit into this moral code Don?

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Nice insight into 'Gardener's Mind' Adam, I also like the way it contrasts Times they are a changing because it's almost as if you put everything that unsettled you into a big compost at the end of it!

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Original item by Adam Rabinowitz

Don,

I think that if we were to self censor, we would not have poets like Ginsberg, there would be no Kerouac as we know it, etc. What is most important, to me at least, is to accurately write the voice of the speaker, whether it be the writer's own voice or the conjured voice of a fictional narrator. I have recently thrown the "F" bomb in a poem. And the effect on the poem worked as intended. It stopped the piece in it's tracks and forced a shift in direction. Anyway, I think careful use of language to convey meaning is the "code of ethics" is what is most important.

Thanks for opening up a fresh discussion.

D

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Original item by Don Matthews

It originates from old Viking words of power I believe! That sense of empowerment remains with some when they use that language. It has it's place, depends on how it's used. I rarely swear anyway & swearing is not allowed on radio .

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Yeah, I've got to say, on this one I kind of agree with you Don but I'd have to qualify that statement. I think that we're about language in all its shapes and forms but I don't like it when it's obvious that the word has been added purely to shock the reader.
I think it's a much harder skill to write a phrase that expresses the exact emotional input of saying, "Fuck!" for instance, and it's a skill I don't have, so for me, in the right places, I'm afraid some of the swear words are staying in.?

J. x

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Thankyou, Don. Very instructive.

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I must confess I do slip in the odd mild swearword. I don't use strong language in my poems, as I don't in my everyday speach.
But I'm never offended when others do swear, it's just a part of normal speach these days.

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Good heavens! Ruth O'Reilly
I can't believe my eyes
You 'digitally detox' as well
You me you do surprise.

But you also please me. Sitting on, but not squashing, little leaves. Good girl.....

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FFS

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Original item by Don Matthews

I'd like to hear audios to some of your other works too. Hearing poems in the poet's own voice really brings them to life.
(I know that this is a cheeky request, is I don't post audios myself)

Comment is about I Stand (blog)

Original item by Jason Bayliss

I thought Trig was Trignometry
And nought to do with brooms
As one of JC's worldwide fans
(My 'magination's shot....)

Graham, he's brought in nags head, (sheesh)
He trying to stir me up?
I'm just a simple Aussie but
(I'm proud my mag. is shot....)

He says I'm not the guy I was
Seven years ago
So sine, cosine and tangent this
(Shoot Graham, my mag. is shot...)

Comment is about TRIG'S BROOM (blog)

Original item by John Coopey

Spoken as a true son of the soil. I enjoyed this and thanks
Keith

Comment is about Compost (blog)

Original item by Adam Rabinowitz

Always happy to challenge the imagination of my worldwide fans, Graham.

Comment is about TRIG'S BROOM (blog)

Original item by John Coopey

Hospital radio...is it still as big as it was? I don't know as I've never had a spell there. And patients don't seem to be kept in for the length of time they used to be. Anyway, good observations Fred.

Comment is about Ranting Reg (blog)

Original item by Rick Varden

a more peaceful piece perhaps.

Comment is about Compost (blog)

Original item by Adam Rabinowitz

When did WOL become The Brain’s Trust the JC?

Comment is about TRIG'S BROOM (blog)

Original item by John Coopey

Don I don't really know much on the telegram but stinky phone boxes where you had to reverse the charges to make a call home as a kid when lost yeah ha ha Thank God for mobiles!

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Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

If 'ass yep true' is a type of royal ass you should really write it as 'ass-yep-true', or more precisely assyeptrue (as opposed to an 'assnottrue'. Makes sense?)

You did get across your message correctly. It's just my neuronic mind...?

Comment is about Brexit Poker (blog)

Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

Thanks Jason glad you liked the poem. I was a teenager when going online took off but yeah I remember just before that and I think it's good to have an awareness of both and the development of it all. Couldn't live without technology but I do digitally detox as well.

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Original item by Ruth O'Reilly

Jason

I'd begin making your own party poppers and hats now cos on the 30th the UK birthday supply truck coming from France is going to be mile-long gridlocked at the channel. Guess you could postpone your BD for 3-6 months......?

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