<Deleted User> (4172)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 19:42
You are blinkered and boring and i can't be arsed with you and any of your kind anymore, you are the epitome of blind ignorance and SHAME on you.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
<Deleted User> (9882)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 19:34
and thankfully joining you
am I,for that inspiration.
Lovely poem.x
Comment is about Violent Ends (blog)
Original item by Alison Smiles
<Deleted User> (9882)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 19:23
If one might be so bold as to say-
this is THE best of the Maggie musings.
Great piece of social(ish)history.x
Comment is about mild frenzy (blog)
Original item by Paul Sands
<Deleted User> (9882)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 19:16
'EE lad-this is reet nice n proper grand!x
Comment is about Old Tyke Blues (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
I hereby nominate Nigel as our next Poet Laureate....
Long may he charm us with his unique gift....
Comment is about April Collage Poem (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Nigel, that is a very true, excellent, summary of Monday!
I have just come across some of your comments from a while ago,which are warm and understanding and make me glad to be back. Thanks, Maggie
Comment is about April Collage Poem (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Overreach and you run the risk of falling.
The unions that were causing so much nationwide
concern were allowing themselves to be led into
delusions of power that had gone against the
mindset of the country. Anyone of mature years
will recall the feeling of "enough" that was
sweeping the country. Choose your leaders
carefully - and applies to unions as well as
the rest of us.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
MW...
The problem - and I recall those bitter days
you mention - was an entrenched POV meeting
an entrenched POV. The country had the
last word.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
This reminds me of a song I loved as a kid:
"Life gets tejus, (tedious) don't it?"
Thanks!
Comment is about Old Tyke Blues (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
It was self-destruct for the union movement -
call it hubris - and a huge price was paid.
The unions still have a place
To put a point of view
But not dictate how others must live
And what they say and do.
Comment is about Nothing Left (blog)
Original item by Chris Co
Spirited and funny. I'm not so sure Denis
would go along though. After all, it was he
who popped the question and married her - for
better or for worse!
Comment is about A HELLISH ENCOUNTER (blog)
Original item by Attila the Stockbroker
She allowed the deregulation of banking practices that had up to that point been regulated for very good reasons - to prevent the kind of mess that they ended up in. There is a direct correlation between that deregulation and the financial collapse.
She did away with manufacturing. What are they calling for now? What do we desperately need now? Manufacturing industries.
The unions worked for so long, at such great expense to the people involved - to give everyone, including you MCN, employment rights that you would not have had otherwise. Your weekends? Sick pay? Reasonable working hours? Holidays? Employment contracts? Unions got you them. And she destroyed them pretty much. We are going backwards, and it is only going to get worse.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
On the Heatons Arts Trail
with Stockport Write Out Loud
poetry can play a part.
Comment is about Heaton Arts Trail (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Looking back - with the exception of the NHS...which in recent times was allowed to become a home for those employed in it rather than the patients..I am scratching my head to recall what any Labour government actually did for the country in total in my lifetime. I am becoming numbed by the vitriol instead of reasoned argument when it comes to the country as a WHOLE and the status it maintains in today's hugely competitive world. The people of this country achieved great things by moving OUT of their comfort zones, and the world we know today reflects that nerve and grit. Our old industries were facing something they couldn't hope to match - eager emerging lands with resources and manpower to spare at rock-bottom rates. It was a case of adapt or die. There had to be another way and our present global economic rating, up there with the best, is proof of what had to be done. Foreign investment comes from trusting potential profit and the UK continues to offer that assurance. Long may it continue for the country as a WHOLE. You have to have something others want to buy or invest in - no more, no less. Letting rubbish fill our streets or the dead go unburied were signs of a country on the slide to self-destruction. Whatever the perceived downside of her time in office, Thatcher wasn't having any of that. For that alone, I will remember and say "Thanks, Maggie"!
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Nigel, that is quite brilliant! Almost oriental in its brevity...
Comment is about April Collage Poem (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
April Chill
Broken lift
cool heaters
slight slope
speeding wheelchair
cold poets
sharing shivers
Collage poem
mirrors brightness.
Comment is about April Collage Poem (blog)
Original item by Stockport WoL
Shake bottle
light quill
then redip
tense texture
please refrain
blotting paper
soaks mistakes
so can
bargain makers.
Comment is about A Letter to Myself (blog)
Original item by Shirley Smothers
Why even say it then? I'll wait and see what John says about that. I'm pretty taken aback by it, have to say.
You know, there were plenty of right wingers hooting with glee over the death of Hugo Chavez, so it's a bit rich for them to come it with the 'don't speak ill of the dead' line now.
I'm not blaming the 'world's ills' on one person, just the things that were a direct result of that one person, and I'm confident I can speak for many of the people you are referencing there. And everything in my poem was indeed a direct result of Thatcher's policies. My dad was in full-time work after he left the Navy until she got in, then every single job during those years resulted in redundancy - last in, first out. Same with my mother. As an unskilled manual labourer, my dad was top of the shit-heap. My brother was meant to be going down the mines, like every lad round here - that didn't happen, and he didn't work until he was 27. 27!
The free dinner queue was soul-destroyingly humiliating, as was the lack of decent uniform, and the rest of the things that signal a family living in poverty. I'm not disputing that it didn't already exist, but the fact is that I was in it as direct result of her.
She WAS complicit in the Hillsborough cover up - the list of her crimes is so long it's unreal.
I couldn't put everything in my poem - there's PLENTY I left out.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
I don't think John really means that he will side with the conservatives - just that he doesn't like the blood fest that's going on at the moment.
I think the left represents itself better when it explains exactly what's gone wrong in a logical, dispassionate way - though I can see how that might not be easy for some.
I don't think you can blame all the world's ills on one person - often it's a combination of things. I had a poor upbringing too - we were pretty destitute - largely down to bad luck and circumstance.
To reference your poem Laura, I know what it feels like to be the kid on free school dinners - in fact I don't cos I refused to have them, preferring to walk 2 miles home and back every day. The system they used for differentiating in our school was a the colour of your ticket. That system went on right through the labour governments as well as the conservative. I suspect it was down to the crassness of the school administration systems back then.
I agree with many of the negative points made about Margaret Thatcher - her government must have been complicit with the Hillsborough atrocity. Like John though, I just don't dance on graves.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
<Deleted User> (4172)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 12:30
You can actually be nudged to vote Tory by the reactions of others, who may well have sound reasons and history to feel the way they do?!
She absolutely LOVED burning and drowning men btw - as their ship sailed in the opposite direction, basically shooting them in the back, and then rejoiced. Rejoice in the news - ring any bells?
Wow. Just...wow.
That's a startling confession right there John. That such an important and lasting decision to side with the people running this country into the ground can be made on such a flimsy and reactionary premise.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
<Deleted User> (4172)
Thu 11th Apr 2013 11:28
Thatcher and her cronies derived not just pleasure, but huge profit from the misfortune of others. Like your use of the word though, you dropped it in on Facebook a few times. I expect you cried when they hung Saddam Hussein and shot Bin Laden, still i'm sure your place in heaven is assured. Best wishes!
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
I think you've hit the nail right on the head.
Comment is about Schadenfreude (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
You obviously didn't record your response when you bought the tea-cake, "HOW MUCH??!!"
Comment is about Old Tyke Blues (blog)
Original item by Ian Whiteley
Brevity
If only it was pain perhaps
The grief would then be bearable
For I defended you once upon ago,
Now I’m deemed unstable,
Collective thought was neither
Gathered nor consulted during
Office hours whilst languishing in power,
Your dictatorship crippled my mind,
Now no longer able.
Those iambic pentameters,
Those words for words
And rhyme for rhyme are all
And all predictable,
But four years was all I had,
One term in office that created
Laws that even courts have found
Fallible.
I question you?
And all you are – for thatched
Be middle classes,
The poor returned to
Rot in states,
Making sure your status.
Four years old my son remains
Never grown and three foot tall
Is all I muster,
While reports declare the fatherless
A social service disaster.
A term became two,
Then three then…………..
……………all those years I missed,
All those years your power,
A child of yours I’ll always be,
But the child of mine,
Was brief.
Michael J Waite 24th March 2008.
Comment is about Dear Margaret (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
I have the same experience Laura! Well said and this is just the tip of the rot she caused.
Nice one
Mike
Comment is about Dear Margaret (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
<Deleted User> (4172)
Wed 10th Apr 2013 18:10
After the Hillsborough revelations she should have died in jail. You seem to forget how she and her policies destroyed entire communities, as well as creating an 'I'm alright, Jack' culture, but as long as you did alright M C, fuck everyone else. I find your poem, mawkish and terribly naïve, but i'm sure your friends on here will love it.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
I like this, it puts your point across verry well and eloquently, the audio clip is sinister and haunting. Youve side stepped the easy option of insulting her as a person and therefore insulting the dead, but rather concentrated on the ripples of detriment left by her time in power.
Hang on...'Ripples of detriment'...could work for a poem!, thankyou Chris (-: Ill use that somewhere
I Digress....
Its really good, well done mate, Love your stuff
Comment is about Nothing Left (blog)
Original item by Chris Co
No one doubts the individual hardships that the huge industrial changes caused but there is nothing new under the sun in the area of human aspiration and disappointment. In a world that was rapidly evolving - with emerging countries possessing literally billions of cheap labour on wages we could never match, it would have been remiss of the UK government not to recognise the reality and the threat, and adapt our economy accordingly. It is no accident that despite the virtual disappearance of coal (if it was so viable, where was the private investment that found its way into power and utilities?), and our former glories of ship-building and steel (ditto - re.private investment), our inventive genius and merchant venturer skills have ensured that our economy has survived - even to the extent of paying billions in benefits! Other countries ally their huge resources to our historical creative reputation and the results can be found across the spectrum of global industrial life. I cannot subscribe to the idea that our society is that bad when, despite all, it can supply more charities, trusts and do-good organisations than any other country and still survive in its own right as a go-ahead centre of invention and investment.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Cheers fellas
There's plenty more could go in this, and I may well add more at some point. Her rejoicing in the burning and drowning of men, slander of Nelson Mandela...many more to add to the list.
Much later...just added a new line.
Comment is about Dear Margaret (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Compere for the night is Paul Blackburn.
Comment is about Write Out Loud at Wigan on Thursday (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
tony sheridan
Tue 9th Apr 2013 15:50
Well said Laura!! Take care, Tony.
Comment is about Dear Margaret (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
tell that to miners and other production workers who had their lives dedstroyed by her policies and stubborn refusal to recognise the 'working' class. Very difficult to look after your family or others when your livelihood is smasshed in front of you. Unfortunately too many people took her literally in 'looking after themselves' at the exclusion of others - I'm happy that you didn't MC - but the majority DID and that's why we have the society we have today.
Ian
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Maggie Thatcher was vilified for her comment about "society" but how much attention was given when she went on to stress the value and importance of the individual taking control of and responsibility for his or her life. This was mendaciously commented on as "selfishness". Bilge! It is common sense that if you look after yourself and your future, you are in a position to look after OTHERS...a point so conveniently missed by critics. I started work at 16 and now I can help family (and others) because of early sacrifice and foresight. In bygone days, this was expected as a part of wider "family responsibility", something that many in modern times, by their own chosen life-styles, have moved away from, encouraged by the something for nothing culture that has emerged in my adult lifetime.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Poignant & true, Laura. This media salivation is sickening when the toll of destruction and misery she oversaw is taken in the balance.
Ian
Comment is about Dear Margaret (blog)
Original item by Laura Taylor
Aye, she was very good at that
Comment is about Goodbye Maggie Thatcher (blog)
Original item by Andy N
At last the Iron Lady's days are over
Shed no tears at her departure
For all the good she did, she left as bad
Don't be mournful, don't be sad
Speak no evil of the dead,
Just remember what she said.
There's no such thing as a community,
The selfish gene seeks its immunity
From the problems of society;
We live in fear of Thatcher's legacy!
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
<Deleted User> (4172)
Tue 9th Apr 2013 09:41
She did do well, for herself and all of her millionaire friends. I wouldn't be surprised if she's already closed down half of the furnaces in hell and that she'll privatize the others. Still her legacy lives on with Cameron and his cronies still doing her work by trampling on the less fortunate in our society.
Comment is about THATCHER - IN PASSING (blog)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Thanks for commenting on my coat poem Yvonne and apologies for the delay in my thanking you - things are a little manic over school holidays and I forget to do things.
Your comment was bang on - and my pockets are full of loose buttons :) x
Comment is about Yvonne Brunton (poet profile)
Original item by Yvonne Brunton
Excellent tribute, 'Arry.
I hope it got you some beer and grub.
Comment is about four from the Gazebo menu Epic (blog)
Original item by Harry O`N eill
Hi Brian thank you for your comment on Irish Sea - glad you liked, Katy
Comment is about BRIAN EVANS (poet profile)
Original item by BRIAN EVANS
Katy Megan Hughes
Thu 11th Apr 2013 20:23
Ah, yes indeed, that's a lovely way of putting it - can I use the words in your comment on my blog?
Comment is about Nigel Astell (poet profile)
Original item by Nigel Astell