I will just say I love all your work, John.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
3-lines and this response! Blimey! I knew I were doin summat wrong!
Seriously, though, thank you to all the contributors to WOL for all the support you've given me since 2010 and, most of all, for all the beautiful poems that I've been privileged to read.
“We make out of the quarrel with others, rhetoric, but of the quarrel with ourselves, poetry.” — William Butler Yeats, from PER AMICA SILENTIA LUNAE.
John
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
<Deleted User> (21291)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 21:17
Hope and trust God....no one is cursed, just few tests of life we have to pass anyway?
Comment is about Cursèd life (blog)
Original item by Jon Stainsby
<Deleted User> (21291)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 21:16
This is so beautiful...nature sings a perfect lullaby.....?
Comment is about My Realm (blog)
Original item by Jon Stainsby
thanks very much martin. i had hoped to channel a bit of basho as i said below, i find haiku can become a bit self indulgent (i am as guilty as any of this) and wanted to write something slight and of a moment as he did.
Comment is about haiku - jasmine (blog)
Original item by Stuart Buck
<Deleted User> (21406)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 20:37
What could be the solution? How could the person be helped? Is this just poetry or a warning?
Very scary write up...?
Comment is about Dancing with Addiction (blog)
Original item by Vautaw
Very clever John. There are some many intriguing tales about Bowie. I think the thing I liked most about him was that he was ever changing.
Love the poem
also an intriguing painting you have posted here is it one of yours ?
Nice one
Comment is about Ch-ch-changes (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Wonderful Linda. Is this new or is it something soon to be published.
Either way a lovely piece
Comment is about Hormoanal (blog)
Original item by Linda Cosgriff
This would appear to be someone who is in a time warp and completely happy with it, despite all others changing around her. I love the fact that does not seem to be an judgement in this.
Nice one Ray
Comment is about LOST CAUSE (blog)
Original item by ray pool
These are well measured words Peter. Words well said
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
This seems to be the genuine article with what would seem to have a real sense of the far east.
Nice one Stu
Comment is about haiku - jasmine (blog)
Original item by Stuart Buck
You have said so much with so few words. beautifully written. I concur completely with your tips on open mic's
Nice one David
I look forward to more
Comment is about 'Haiku: Robin at New Year' by David Redfield is Poem of the Week (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
I appreciate that I am not well known in WOL but I will back this comment up with a proper application/CV which will give you chapter and verse as to my credentials to be part of a moderator team.
Hitherto I have enjoyed immensely contributing to WOL and reading certainly not all but a fair number of the blogs that flow through the system adorned (generally) by respectful commentary throughout their passage. I have also considered it appropriate to make a monthly donation as an expression of my enjoyment and thanks for the intelligent and friendly words of support from many, many good poets out there reading.
WOL deserves better treatment than has been inflicted on it recently by a minority. To stage on our carefully constructed and well loved platform the kind of material that has appeared over this short period (relative to its longevity) is to slap the face of every other person who gives his or her time to write, to read, to manage and thereby daily re-create the fine thing that WOL is and should be. A line must be drawn now to prevent terminal damage to this wonderful organisation. There is no way that personal grievances can be handled as they have been recently. We must all know deep down inside that this is not and cannot be the way.
Peter T
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
<Deleted User> (21422)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 19:01
Nice to meet you David...wonderful comment..."here is probably there". I loved National Lottery-spot on!?
Comment is about David Gabriel Caplan (poet profile)
Original item by David Gabriel Caplan
A genuine and heartfelt thanks to you all.
J
Comment is about Whips And Lashes (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
The spirit of economy is such a worthwhile process as you say David. We can all hold this up to the light and see clearly. Congratulations too.
Ray
Comment is about 'Haiku: Robin at New Year' by David Redfield is Poem of the Week (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
this is very warm despite the subject matter and i enjoyed it a lot
Comment is about Ice Skating In New Orleans (blog)
Original item by Paris Tate
thoroughly embarrassing to watch this develop over the last few days. grown men. i ask you! poetry is a bridge builder between the worlds of people who may never meet but share a love for words and a need to express themselves. to have the site rendered almost unusable due to a handbags match has been a great shame. thats my only words on the 'matter'.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Thanks Lisa. A drama-free day is grand by me. All good wishes. John
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Round of applause , (extreme clapping )
May it sink in and bring order and possibly a new start..
What a beautiful choice of words.. Well done
Comment is about Whips And Lashes (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Thought provoking work, beautiful.
Such a wonderful title too.
Comment is about Strangers Leave Scars (blog)
Original item by Tom
<Deleted User> (16837)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 15:18
Brother Don and big brother Sal......come to a common ground, drop your swords.
Such a wisdom spread in this poem.
Peace....and no more war...please!!!
We want you back Big Sal!!!l
Comment is about Whips And Lashes (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Much sense in these lines. Best to be open to compromise and
explanation in any conflict of opinions and avoid the egregious extremes in responses that can occur. Onward and upward!
Comment is about Whips And Lashes (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Fri 1st Feb 2019 14:48
Bit late but! Happy new year robin, you too David. Great inspirational haika.
All the best des
Comment is about 'Haiku: Robin at New Year' by David Redfield is Poem of the Week (article)
Original item by Greg Freeman
If you add up each poem that was posted by both parties , its clear to see who's really at fault..
This all started over silly comment's that lead to a hudge negative war, its unfair to put all of the blame on big sal. If I am correct their was two poems directed at his site in a negative way before he responded back. Two wrongs do not make a right.
It would be so awful to put WOL on hold and punish the rest of the amazing aspiring poet's because of other people's lack of respect..
Today alone there was another poem placed on this site, its clear to see who is really at fault here.
The little boy who cried wolf rings a bell..
I hope this mess can be sorted out ASAP, this site has turned into a mini version of Facebook with so much drama.
I hope we can all restore it back to how and what it was originally designed for.
To express our poetic selfs once more with out the fear of crazy ' childish drama.. I stand by big sal 100%, he stood up to bullys in my eyes, i also
find you all super talented. Have a pleasant drama free day everyone?
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Julian and Greg : I think it is good that a grip has been made on the problems you describe, for one reason the minority are suffering from a lack of transparency; now at least the situation has been revealed and drawn into focus. Obviously posting tit for tat grievances come nowhere the ethos of poetry, in fact destroys the fabric of its inspiration.. I certainly feel restrained, but are trying to ignore it. While I am posting, I feel it would be a massive loss to lose the site as it stands, and would implore those on the treadmill to show a bit of consideration. I have always valued the importance of intelligent comments and tried to do my bit.
At present I fear that the very act of moderation would be like invading a wasps nest.
My good friend David Moore tried his best to raise the bar, even being banned for a time, making a wonderful contribution by the expressing of genuine life experiences which are unpalatable to many. I am speaking on his behalf I'm sure when I make this comment.
I entirely understand what you say, but could not let it pass without my feelings being known.
With respect, Ray
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Big Sal - Thanks! I will check it out that 2Pac song..never heard it before ? greets
Vautaw - Thank you!
poemagraphic - Thx! 24 btw ?
Comment is about Thursday (blog)
Original item by Dragan Bozilov
Good to see you on WOL Carla and to experience your range of activities. Sadly we are having some adverse comments at present in general, but we must soldier on and rise above that. Hold hands and contact the living!
Might see you soon!
Ray
Comment is about Carla Scarano (poet profile)
Original item by Carla Scarano
Thank you for your valued comments Po...
Doesn't it always seem to be the 'shit-kickers' at the bottom of the pile who hold things together !
Comment is about The Smug Bastard (blog)
Original item by David Gabriel Caplan
I apologise to all those negatively affected by these matters. We will not allow inappropriate material or attitudes to appear on our site.
Our approach is normally straightforward: we provide this service free of charge providing people follow the code of conduct. If they don't, we give a warning and ask that those considered to have breached the code to remove offending material; if needed, a second warning and we remove offending items; if a third occasion we remove the offending items and bar the offender.
As Greg suggests, we have seen it all before and managed to keep the site going for sixteen years, with a moderator looking after things. However, we have no moderator at the moment, and clearly need one.
we rely on volunteers to do this for us, as we receive no funding. Is there anyone reading this who would be willing to be our moderator? ideally, two or three working as a team, backed up by the editorial team.
When I put out the newsletter at Christmas asking for moderators, and a meet and greet person, no one showed up. If we cannot get one we will have to suspend the blogs until we can do so - as this clearly demonstrates - which also means no Poem of the Week for a while. We need one or more willing volunteers to police the site for us, or at least respond to complaints.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Thank you, Anya, for your comments. I have only recently stumbled upon this personal feud in a small part of the blogs section on Write Out Loud. Thankfully most people seem to be ignoring it - as they undoubtedly should - and are continuing to post up their poems regardless. I must emphasis that I am not speaking in an official capacity for Write Out Loud, and my thoughts are entirely personal. We have had many spats and rows in the past, but we never relish them. It should be pointed out that Write Out Loud started out life as just a Gig Guide, and that the blogs were added later. There is only so much time any volunteer moderator can spend moderating poems and comments. LIfe's too short. To suspend the blogs entirely would penalise the great, inoffensive majority, of course, but that action might have to be considered in the long-term, for the greater health of the site. Just my thoughts, of course.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
kj
Big Sal's response to this poem can hardly be descibed as 'nonsense' that I should draw the line under and forget. Too much of a coward to come up front and be public with his comment on John's blog he chose to fire venom at me (and now my family) with the personally nasty and cruel PM below. This is completely against WOL guidelines
You REALLY expect me to put up with his PM to me kj? It is far more than just a 'spat' which should be obvious to anyone. His venom and vitriol is damaging the site. He should be shown the gate.
Hey You Cocksucking Bitch, You Can't Rhyme Faggot
Friday 1st February 2019 4:02 am
Just wanted to tell you that your comment on John's poem is as fucking stupid as you. Hope you read this because you're a fucking faggot you little bitch.
Keep talking about me bitch. I hope you do. Fuck you and your whole family you little pussy.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
I don't know what started this little spat, but it's now gone far too far. I think it's high time that all parties involved drew a line under it. I enjoy reading your poems, they really appeal to my daft sense of humour.
I also enjoy the sublime rhymes of Sal(don't deny that he is who this is about).
I just think it's a great shame to see you both wasting your talents on this nonsense.
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
<Deleted User> (21422)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 04:59
<Deleted User> (21422)
Fri 1st Feb 2019 04:40
Vitriol exuded
From a writer's pen
Is likely to just get them
In a lions den
Where all the lions don't
Don't see eye to eye
One persists in vitriol
(Which seems bit dumb to I)
The lion exuding vitriol
Is just too dumb to see
The other lions a'laughing
Laughing just at he
In lion-talk it's simply called
Getting on with others
Treating all with due respect
Treating all as brothers
But vitriol-exuders
Are oh so arrogant
They think they are so precious
Rid arrogance? They can't
And yes my fellow writer
Vitriol's heavy price
Just gets receivers offside
Vitriolers throw their dice
Their dice they hope will win them
The prize with such high stakes
The game they play is risky though
Their play could all be fake
Casinos wouldn't like this
As all us WOLers know
A gambler abusiing players
(Hot air, and all for show)
The bouncers (moderators?)
Would kick them out the door
And say so, so politely
Just don't come back no more ?
Comment is about Pouring out the vitriol (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
Thanks for the insight John. Shakespeare gave great advice that I'm sure is used widely still today. I resonate most with Emily Bronte's pithy quote from my favorite book, Wuthering Heights: "My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath - a source of little visible delight, but necessary."
Comment is about Yin-Yang Love (blog)
Original item by Vautaw
To Clarke and Jennifer,
I am really touched by your generous responses to 'Grace and Favour'. Thank you.
I was asked recently 'What is it about?' and I replied that it was about slowing down as the years slide by, and about seeking calmness, even serenity, within one's own world.
Chris
Comment is about Grace and Favour (blog)
Original item by Chris Hubbard
Speaks pithily to an eternal theme. Shakespeare had the last word, as usual:
Get thee a good husband,
and use him as he uses thee.
(All's Well That Ends Well 1.1.212-13)
Comment is about Yin-Yang Love (blog)
Original item by Vautaw
Wonderful! Plain in form and extraordinary in every other way. I like your style altogether too, D.K., in case I haven't told you!
Thank you ?
Mae
Comment is about Stick Men (blog)
Original item by d.knape
We know why you are here Po, to cheer us on to write more! Thanks for stopping by and playing the game! ?
Comment is about Match Point (blog)
Original item by Vautaw
Big Sal, didn’t I see somewhere you posted that you are 25? I don’t think I would have reached the same conclusion at that age.
Comment is about Yin-Yang Love (blog)
Original item by Vautaw
Jon Stainsby
Fri 1st Feb 2019 21:25
Yes, that's the one. Thanks, Po.
Comment is about My Realm (blog)
Original item by Jon Stainsby