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Greg Freeman

Tue 29th Sep 2020 23:42

I've thought about this further, John, and my objection is this. Your poem is written in generalities. You need to be more specific to persuade me. If you're outraged about a particular case - such as in the link you provide - spell out the details of that case in the poem. Like in an early 60s protest song by Dylan. He wrote a number of detailed songs about civil rights cases, atrocities, murders. If you feel your case deserves the same treatment, that might make it more persuasive. Hurling over-used words about doesn't work for me.

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Greg Freeman

Tue 29th Sep 2020 23:25

Well, I didn't like it for that particular reason ... that you're using words that will be out of date before we know it, that you will eventually have to Google to find out what they mean. 'Cancel culture' ... same problem again. Because I'm not interested in these terms, I struggle with their meanings. They're slogan words, aren't they? Should they have any place in a crafted poem? It's a mark of respect for your poetry that I ask you this.

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John Marks

Tue 29th Sep 2020 23:09

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/27/the-cowardice-of-cancel-culture/

Such liberal authoritarianism is as bad, or worse, as the old fashioned illiberal sort. 'Cancel culture', an oxymoron if ever there was one, is designed to stifle debate. Unfortunately such woke threats to free speech and such pathetic virtue-snarling will be around for a long time, regardless of the jargon used.

I take it you didn't like the poem Greg. Fair do's.

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Liam Osaneo

Tue 29th Sep 2020 22:59

This is simply brilliant :)

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Greg Freeman

Tue 29th Sep 2020 22:28

Will anyone know what the word 'woke' meant five years from now? Or 'virtue-signal'? Just wondering aloud.

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:20

Inspiring but I'd like to think we can hide from them..... X the powers that be

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:18

Life can feel like this the trick is not to let the outside world reflect the inside you, I'm still learning this toox thanks for your poem

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:16

Beautiful but a tragic subject x

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:15

I wish I was in New York again, as a woman travellinh alone around America 4 years ago I didn't go in any bars, I hit the streets instead sightseeing and the river and central park it was Christmas so it was magical, New York in the summer I'd like to try and with a friend I'd maybe try a bar or two bit it's sober ville for me being an ex drinker. I love this poem it's evocative and as if I'm standing in your shoes there. X well done you

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:10

Beautiful words x you just extended my vocab

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:09

Feel so sorry for students during this pandemic and lecturers xx

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:06

A good poem I like the last line, we are told what to think, what to feel how to be think George Orwell 1984 is upon us x and God help you as a woman if your not faked tanned with false nails, false boobs, big trout pout lips and botox xxx I like the lines on me head and round me eyes they show I've lived

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Tue 29th Sep 2020 21:05

Ha prefer a cup of tea and a good book these days, can't be bothered with it all and it messes with me hair and me eyelashes fall off! Ha x

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Alina Lin

Tue 29th Sep 2020 20:38

That's how life works...

https://1on1.today

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julie callaghan

Tue 29th Sep 2020 20:15

Thanks Stephen. Just realised it looks a bit odd on the mobile site?

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Stephen Atkinson

Tue 29th Sep 2020 20:01

Must have missed the raindrops when they first fell! Great style & fun to read.

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julie callaghan

Tue 29th Sep 2020 18:52

Raindrops previously posted but thought puddles may look good underneath it.

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julie callaghan

Tue 29th Sep 2020 18:48

Thanks for the likes Hugh and both Stephens.

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Stephen Gospage

Tue 29th Sep 2020 18:20

The concluding line is extraordinary.

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Stephen Atkinson

Tue 29th Sep 2020 17:45

I'll have a pint of whatever you've been drinking ?. A brilliant, dark image inducing treat.

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Stephen Atkinson

Tue 29th Sep 2020 17:21

If only the world was as beautiful as it is in our own minds. Lovely stuff Shifa.

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Stephen Atkinson

Tue 29th Sep 2020 17:18

Thanks again Julie for your comments & likes. And aye, she's a feisty old bugger!

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Stephen Atkinson

Tue 29th Sep 2020 17:14

Thank you Julie. And glad you enjoyed my pit yakker bio ?

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clyde McCulley

Tue 29th Sep 2020 15:58

A great poem, thank you for these words.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 29th Sep 2020 15:53

Hi dk - here's some good wishes for your ongoing participation in
embellishing our quality of life on WOL with your contributions.
At our stage of life there's the onus
Of treating each day as a bonus! ?

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clyde McCulley

Tue 29th Sep 2020 15:51

I love this poem. A great story.

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trevor homer

Tue 29th Sep 2020 15:25

Gardening - probably the most satisfying and rewarding of occupations. Thanks

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trevor homer

Tue 29th Sep 2020 15:18

To my mind Ray there's nothing strange about it. I think poetry is about what the poetry is pointing at, not how it's said. It doesn't have to be poetic. Here's to strangeness. Cheers

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d.knape

Tue 29th Sep 2020 12:16

I'm enjoy this life
the pleasure of living,
on exiting soon
I have my misgivings!
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(enjoyed your rhyme M.C.---thanks for that!)

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julie callaghan

Tue 29th Sep 2020 11:54

Wow, I nearly missed this one! so emotional and even more so when you read the story behind it. Glad I found it as it lead me to your amazing bio. Congratulations on the entry in Beyond The Storm, well deserved.

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julie callaghan

Tue 29th Sep 2020 11:47

Amazing story, I write this with teary eyes

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Tom

Tue 29th Sep 2020 10:57

Brilliant! I especially loved this part:

"your body begs without moving
pleases without speaking
and loves without being asked"

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Tom

Tue 29th Sep 2020 10:52

Really like this, Robbie.

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John F Keane

Tue 29th Sep 2020 10:20

It isn't the eating so much as the growing.

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Greg Freeman

Tue 29th Sep 2020 10:13

Sorry to hear about your iffy harvest, John. Tbh, I'm not sure that ours rated tops for flavour - that's why a lot of them ended up in stews! Thanks for the Like, Jordyn.

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Shifa Maqba

Tue 29th Sep 2020 10:12

In awe of your writing!

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Richard Hartley

Tue 29th Sep 2020 09:41

Hi Jon
Thankyou for your comment after my poem "Memorial Day In Moscow" - that's much appreciated.
Quite by chance, this poem is going to be published in the next edition of 'Poetry Plus - The Magazine' so it will reach an even wider audience.
Richard

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John Coopey

Tue 29th Sep 2020 09:13

Mine were a curate’s egg of a crop. Bumper sets, good size. But latterly scabby and nondescript flavour (Moneymaker). Next year it’s Tesco’s for me.

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John Coopey

Tue 29th Sep 2020 09:06

The year it came closest to ending.
https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis

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Martin Elder

Tue 29th Sep 2020 08:28

I have to confess that even in the last few years I have started scribbling on napkins. But usually I make sure I have a notebook with me.
Nice one Ray

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Martin Elder

Tue 29th Sep 2020 08:24

Hi Ray
I think you have hit the nail on the head there with allowing ourselves to get things in proportion.
Thanks my friend

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John Coopey

Tue 29th Sep 2020 08:08

Many thanks for your thoughts, MC and Paul.
It amuses me that for years women (they’re the ones with a front bum) have resented being considered sex objects, whilst now they want to be defined by it.
And thanks for the Likes, Stephen and Flavia.

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Josephine Underwood

Tue 29th Sep 2020 05:53

Very powerful.

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clyde McCulley

Tue 29th Sep 2020 02:59

Thanks Paul.
I am new to writing poetry and I appreciate your comments on this and on "earlids" in Sound of the Sun.
Clyde

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Various

Tue 29th Sep 2020 01:08

Thanks Ray.... If I hear "We are Sailing" ever on the radio I throw it out the window... same goes for "Don't Cry For Me Argentina".

I have a hate from those days... The BBC. They announced we would attack Goose Green and the Argie moved 1000 more men into positions, same with their ordinance, their bombs were not going off, loads of ships were hit including mine and the bomb failed to explode, they were fucking up the timing on the detonator. The fucking BBC actually announced that... next thing you know Brit ships were blowing up all over the shop.

My other piece of anger is Colonel "H" Jones 2 Para (VC). He shouldn't have been there, he was "Sunray", Battalion commander, his place was safe back with his maps and radios and tea. Instead he took it upon himself to assault Argy machine gun positions across very open ground, I've seen it, and eighteen of his men and him got killed. "Sunray is down" over the radio left two Para headless, the one man with the whole battles cape in his head played the hero, lost and left his Battalion leaderless, he went against military doctrine and training. Had he lived he should have been court martialled! I was told by a 2 para combat medic he had two British rounds in his back. Someone had sense.

Fortunately Major Chris Keeble was his number two, ex SAS and a brilliant soldier, he was able to get a picture, put things back together and won in the end.

The other thing no one ever mentions is the Argentinians were disgraceful, they literally shit everywhere, in Stanly they shit in drawers, cabinets, wardrobes, in all their positions in the field, it took ages to clean up that filth. I don't know why but they did it.

Everyone thought the Argy pilots were real heroes, they couldn't fly at full speed couldn't manoeuvre, they were so low on fuel if they got caught up in heavy manoeuvring to dodge missiles and aa fire, they would run out of fuel on the way home, this made our Harriers look far better than they were! In fact it was two Harrier pilots told me that. Everyone respected them because despite that, and their heavy loses they just kept coming.Amazing courage.

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victoriavautaw@gmail.com

Mon 28th Sep 2020 23:02

This is beautiful Eric. Thank you for sharing your soul and lighting the way for the lost. Stay golden. ?

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Stephen Atkinson

Mon 28th Sep 2020 22:57

Thank you Greg for your comment on my bio poem Aye, Wingate. And yes, 'Johnnie's cafe' , which had been a fixture in the village since the early 50's ( sadly closed around 10 yr ago) still had all the original 50's decor: wooden seats, counter, fixtures etc. So Beamish museum bought it & are rebuilding it in the new 1950's village. But, sadly, the way things are going they might not have the money to complete it. And, as you say, if you visit these days it's more like a ghost town ?

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victoriavautaw@gmail.com

Mon 28th Sep 2020 22:50

Another bow to the poetry king. Your words are an adventure! ?

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John Marks

Mon 28th Sep 2020 22:44

Thank you Eric, Paul and Stephen G. Also, thanks to your goodself, Stephen A. I think if a poem can be summarised then it's not a poem, just chopped up prose. Sometimes, I just let the words come to me, my job is to put them in order.

Genuine poetry can communicate before it is understood. TS Eliot


The purpose of literature is to turn blood into ink.

T S Eliot

And, yes, Paul, music is the highest of the arts, because it is the most abstract.


There is no feeling, except the extremes of fear and grief, that does not find relief in music.

TS Eliot






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Greg Freeman

Mon 28th Sep 2020 20:47

Thank you, Paul, Binte, Graham, and Ray for your lovely comments - and congratulations on your similar bumper harvests! Cheers for the Likes, too, Stephen and Sarah.

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