John. Just to clarify. Do you intend to chop your poem or your todger up?
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
There you go, Don. Save you looking too hard.
https://www.writeoutloud.net/discuss/when-is-a-poem-not-a-poem--2162
https://www.writeoutloud.net/discuss/what-is-poetry--2138
But just to be clear, Don, I don’t consider this a poem; I’m just taking advantage.
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
An interesting perspective.
Thank you
Keith
Comment is about Once We Were Gods (blog)
Original item by d.knape
Poetry is defined as
a piece of writing in which the expression of feelings and ideas is given intensity by particular attention to diction (sometimes involving rhyme), rhythm, and imagery.
Does not necessarily have rhyme but must have metrical rhythm to be classed as a poem.
Sorry John. As much as I find your bit fascinating it is not a poem. It is a story, until someone convinces me otherwise.
Now don't go and sulk. Your idea of chopping it into pieces has merit. Go work on it. Don't forget the metrical rhythm though
Don
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
John,
I've done my research and back with questions.
I discover that numpties are confused people with little idea of what they are talking about. Therefore when the say poetry has no rhyme. or rhythm they don't know what they're talking about. I could not see any such learned Discussion threads anywhere on the site about this?. Where did you see them? If you took them at their word this suggests you are also a numpty?\
Don ?
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Lovely poem for POTW - congratulations. Great rhythm, got a sense of riding along, and building and building.
Comment is about The Write Out Loud Poem of the Week is 'The Racing Stable' by M.C Newberry (article)
Original item by Stuart Buck
Ah Rich. If we could just learn not to be so selfish. Maybe I'm asking the impossible. Maybe it's in our genes. The me-first gene.
Comment is about Nab Me a Seat (blog)
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<Deleted User> (21487)
Sat 16th Mar 2019 08:24
I think that those of us who write shite are a shade posher than those who write shit.
The very poshest think that sugar is more elegant.
Dorothy
Comment is about It's Shit Not Shite (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
Excellent points, MC. The point about sweating hadn’t occurred to me but the evidence is there for me in that I don’t go to the lav anywhere near as often through the night in summer.
Don - I too cannot conceive of this as a poem either. But numerous numpties in Discussions have argued that there are no rules to poetry. They argue it does not require rhythm or rhyme. So I’ve taken them at their word and written this poem. Perhaps if I were to chop it into little lines?
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Missing Person Keith Jeffries, last seen prowling through the undergrowth of heavy prose in search of a liberating poem. No need to contact emergency services.
Keith
Comment is about d.knape (poet profile)
Original item by d.knape
I used to write shite
but now I know it is shit
so be it.
Thanks Don.
Keith
Comment is about It's Shit Not Shite (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
<Deleted User> (21487)
Sat 16th Mar 2019 07:35
Jeffarama
"you will never speak for all of us
it's in your name, not mine"
I want to shout those words from every hill and mountain across the world.
Dorothy
Comment is about They were only saying their prayers... (blog)
Original item by Jeffarama!
elPintor
Sat 16th Mar 2019 06:58
Words can be terrifically slippery, but I love them most when they resist me so.
Duality--so glad to see it expressed so clearly through your comments, David and Jason.
Thanks to all who read,
Rachel
Comment is about manual (blog)
Original item by nunya
Golly gosh!
What elixer do I take to get a boner like that? It would need to be an elixer which can be cut off at will though
Retrograde ejaculation? Maybe that's why wet dreams in my youth never made an appearance on the sheets? The got confused and went into my bladder.
As much as I find all this interesting my head is struggling to get around how this finds itself onto a 'poetry' website?
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Beautiful lyrics. Thanks for sharing! ?
Comment is about Cadence (blog)
Original item by Daemon Cantrell
Kate,
Medications stop full-blown mania but I'm times 10 on the emotion scale. I therefore 'feel' more intensely. Empathise more intensely. Get 'angry' more intensely. Get emotional more intensely.
I'm comfortable with this.
Don
Comment is about This Rhyme Upsets the Rhymer – Understanding Bipolar Disorder (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
<Deleted User> (19913)
Fri 15th Mar 2019 23:28
Wonderful Don... your candor about mania is a story that needs to be heard. It reminds me of a perspective I heard the other day on those who have experienced trauma... As much as the effects can be terrible if not managed, it often leaves those who have experienced trauma in a position of strength to greater empathise deeply, with others. Robin Williams is a big loss to the world....
Comment is about This Rhyme Upsets the Rhymer – Understanding Bipolar Disorder (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
Although diagnosed 'bipolar' I for some strange reason don't suffer 'depression' unless feeling regret at saying some of the things I say can be classed as 'depression'?. I put the question to professionals but get no satisfactory answers. My demon is mania. Medications help control it (sort of). Would I want it eliminated? Never! It gives me the drive to create. 'Controlled mania' is one of my best friends. Don't wanna be a zombie ?
Comment is about This Rhyme Upsets the Rhymer – Understanding Bipolar Disorder (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
Kindness is a virtue. But the kind are often done wrong... Beautiful Jon! And fair.?
Comment is about Hangman (blog)
Original item by Jon Stainsby
Good Evening Mark (is it?), you did me the immense favour of re-acquainting me with the beautifully crafted poetry of Robert Laurence Binyon 1869–1943. I remembered 'For the fallen' very well but had either not read or forgotten (mea culpa..) 'The burning of the leaves' which I found an immensely brave and moving poem:
They will come again, the leaf and the flower, to arise
From squalor of rottenness into the old splendour,
And magical scents to a wondering memory bring;
The same glory, to shine upon different eyes.
Earth cares for her own ruins, naught for ours.
Nothing is certain, only the certain spring.
John
Comment is about M.C. Newberry (poet profile)
Original item by M.C. Newberry
Thanks for your likes Kate and Dorothy. Tommy, I seem to have you as the cyclist . Lovely pictures you conjure up . A fellow enthusiast. A good long ride! My longest day was Norwich to Bedford. So many stories! Thanks for digging this. Rày
Comment is about HAWK WIND (blog)
Original item by ray pool
Thankyou Dorothy I am glad you liked the poem that means alot to me!
Comment is about Cadence (blog)
Original item by Daemon Cantrell
TC's advice about drinking before bedtime is good. Also,
coffee (and perhaps tea to a lesser extent) is reputedly an irritant in that area. The stimulation that sees someone in need of a
pee is also a matter of mental control whilst the physical side is
regulated by the sphincter to a large extent unless the bladder is
overladen and elimination is a matter of urgency - part of
nature's blueprint for self-protection as urine retention is
hazardous to health. In the final analysis, it is accepted that
age is a dominant factor in urinary matters and has to be adjusted
to via related physical maintenance/exercise. When youthfully active there is elimination of water from the body via sweating, often
unrecognised, and this lessens the load heading for the bladder -
and the frequency of urination. Age reduces this physical side of
things and more water is sent via the kidneys to the bladder.
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Thanks, Tommy. We ought to go into business as an NHS Helpline.
You might need to ask Tommy that, Graham. There is an irony though here. Replacing your Bag For Life with a plastic bag seems to fly in the face supermarket policy.
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
<Deleted User> (21487)
Fri 15th Mar 2019 18:40
Daemon
I love the natural world, unfortunatly due to my increasing age I am no longer able to walk through the fields and woods that I love, but you have taken me back there and I thank you for that.
Dorothy
Comment is about Cadence (blog)
Original item by Daemon Cantrell
<Deleted User> (21487)
Fri 15th Mar 2019 18:09
Jason
It is obvious in every careful word - in every careful line - this was written with a very heavy heart.
It would be easy to write token platitudes so I won't insult you with them, but I will say that I have absolutly no doubt that every one on this blog is willing you to stay safe.
take care
Dorothy
Comment is about A Stone For The Miller (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Does an M&S bladder hold more than a Tesco Bladder? Discuss
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
John not drinking 3 hours before retiring reduces bladder-fill (sounds like a Death metal band) try emptying your bag immediately before bed. Laying on the back increases pressure on the bladder, try sleeping on the side. Bladders are bags, a bit like Tesco bags with zips and no handles but not made of plastic and obviously with no Tesco on it. So now you know.
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
<Deleted User> (21487)
Fri 15th Mar 2019 17:17
Thank you kind sirs.? In my youth, I used to watch Dave Allen's late night show at home in Belfast.
Comment is about Painting (blog)
Original item by Trevor Alexander
Delightfully amusing.
I enjoyed this
Thank you
Keith
Comment is about Painting (blog)
Original item by Trevor Alexander
This is probably my favorite you have ever done. Truly reached me at a time I needed to read this. Such beautiful words and telling a powerful story that I relate to so much. I carry my burden as well. Parallel journeys of burdens to carry. May we both find our rest.
Comment is about A Stone For The Miller (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Many thanks, Doctor Mark.
All sound advice in my experience. I have found that a technique similar to the one you describe of squeezing and releasing the little general promotes quick spurts which are more easily controlled into the pan as well as encouraging “every last drop”.
I too am an infrequent outpatient at Doncaster where the consultant has explained to me that the real value of the PSA monitoring is not as a numeric absolute but as a baseline whereby they can recognise a sudden increase.
The MRI should pick up suspicious shadows but the biopsy is pretty copper-bottom. 12 samples are unlikely to miss any infections.
As for retrograde ejaculation and priapism, so far they have been absent.
My advice for any bloke who has nothing better to do than read my guff is that prostate cancer is one of the most treatable forms. If you have any of the “old man’s symptoms” regarding wazzing....
GET YOURSELF TESTED.
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Fri 15th Mar 2019 16:36
Missing Person, keith Jeffries, has disappeared.
if seen, report immediately.
may be armed with a poem.
approach carefully.
Comment is about keith jeffries (poet profile)
Original item by keith jeffries
Graphically evoking the force of meeting serious illness in the
surroundings that so often accompany it.
Comment is about CHEMOTHERAPY (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
The imaginative use of these words and the scenario they present
offer much to enjoy and ponder.
If the human mind works tirelessly with a will
Then each thought and prayer is grist to its mill
……………………………………………………...
Comment is about A Stone For The Miller (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
I'm in pain and of course always nauseous as I read. The white walls, the speech impediment, the sweaty nights...everything. You couldn't have painted a more accurate picture. ?Hang in there!
Comment is about Treatment (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
I'm nauseous (not from the strong poem) and hoping you're okay. ?
Comment is about CHEMOTHERAPY (blog)
Original item by John E Marks
<Deleted User> (17847)
Fri 15th Mar 2019 16:13
DK-although this non-marxist approves it would have been nice to spare the lowly welly a mention!
Jeez! did they make one's feet whiff!
LS
Comment is about Shoes (blog)
Original item by d.knape
TA - a welcome poke at PC thinking - so "TA" again for that.
In my own mind, I can hear the late lamented comedian Dave Allen telling this sort of joke.
.
Comment is about Painting (blog)
Original item by Trevor Alexander
Wow, I rarely like love themed poems but this one is excellent. Deep and beautifully phrased. "In unison reaching the ocean floor and kissing the abyss and can dive no more"
Loved it!
Thank you?
Mae
Comment is about Dive In (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
Mae, you can make the messages as long as you like my friend, especially when they contain such great stories from the life of your family. Thanks mate.
J. x
Comment is about Hammers and Forges (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
JC - talk about "up and at 'em!" Notwithstanding the information
you supply from personal acquaintance, I enjoyed the chuckles
with some identifying familiarity, having some knowledge of the
subject; as do some of my contemporaries who are on medication
for the sort of condition YOU describe - which, in my own urology
consultant's language, seems to describe BPH - benign prostate
hypertrophy. The enlarged gland exerts pressure on the tube
(urethra?) from the bladder and affects previously more forceful unobstructed passage of urine. This can leave a feeling that the
bladder is not completely emptied as well as the symptoms/signs
you describe and adopting the "double void" technique can help.
This entails waiting a short while after peeing then squeezing the
head of the penis between finger and thumb while mentally
fixating on relaxing the sphincter. It is advised that no "forcing" be employed in the process described. In my own case, I've found
it to work - bringing about an increased need to pee again - more powerfully - and doing a more thorough job of
emptying the bladder. I find this helps keep loo visits to once a night if I employ it on that particular visit - and allows the rest of
the night - well, 4 or 5 hours on average - of uninterrupted kip.
I can offer no useful advice about the
drug(s) mentioned but "side-effects" are
commonly included in accompanying
instruction leaflets and do not necessarily
affect users who should be guided by
individual experience and stop if in
doubt, seeking medical advice accordingly.
I have been offered a biopsy following a recent PSA result but
have instead opted for follow-up MRI scans instead, not being
convinced (as if often admitted within the medical profession itself)
of the total reliability of PSA READINGS denoting actual disease.
As things stand, I am an ongoing patient at the local urology dept.
with no medication prescribed in my own case - but following a
self-imposed dietary discipline of healthy prostate-friendly food...
and supplements with a placebo-test record indicating a positive
effect on prostate health. I hope the above helps anyone who
reads your blog and has concerns in that area but any search
online for "prostate health or "prostate friendly foods" should help
enlarge (that word again) the searcher's knowledge of a well-
known condition. Surgery should be a last resort when disease
is not suspected but it can be used to limit the size of the
prostate to reduce urine obstruction in appropriate cases.if my memory serves me correctly..
To bring some poetical lines to bear - and not before time!
No man should be prostrate
With his prostate! ?
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey
Excellent piece Jason! Steeped with wisdom. There are two words in Greek which I think are suitable for this poem. The first one means "iron-headed" and it's a wish for someone who just got over a tough situation, usually a dangerous illness! A teacher of mine said it to me when I got good news form the doctors.
"I wish you to be iron-headed from now on!" It's a wish and a plea, a warning. Do not squander your life, use your experience to your benefit, be strong. You should know better from now one. Something along these lines. So, "Iron-headed."
And the other word, in the same spirit, stands for "copper-gut". It means that your guts are made of copper. Again here the metal symbolizes endurance and toughness!
I've only heard it used once, when I was told the following story. When my father was in school, one day he had to memorize for a class as homework the life of some important figure of Christianity (For Crying out loud! If you can believe it in Greece we have a whole subject on Religion!?) but of course he didn't study. The next day in class, last minute he hastily opens the book in the marked page as if to get an idea of what he was supposed to know but he has no time to read anything, he only catches a glimpse of this word in the middle of the page in bold letters that characterized the man as "copper-gut". Before he has time to read anything else the teacher/priest asks him to recite his homework! Now my father knowns squat about St. Whatever, nor has he read the text so as to make sense of that unknown, strange word. The teacher looks at him and says:
"One word! If you've studied, you know I need one word that sums up the life and exploits of St. Whatever!"
Lucky ducky had just seen the word and because it stood out he had inadvertently memorized it! So he blurted it out! The teacher was ecstatic with this, so very spiritual, so diligent, studious young lad!!! He gave him an A for the rest of the year without asking him another question! My father had no idea who the heck St. Whatever was and what this strange word meant. Out of curiosity he read the whole page and discovered that the man was a martyr and had endured unparalleled ordeals and had survived; he was literally wrought with hardships! That's when the word "copper-gut" entered my father's mindset and by extension, way later on, mine! That's what I get from this poem! Masterful, skillful as always but most of all spot on! Fires and hammers my friend! Bravo!
Thank you and apologies for the long message?
Mae
Comment is about Hammers and Forges (blog)
Original item by Jason Bayliss
It is beyond most of us - those who know of no more than the buzz of
happiness and the blues-y feeling of a passing "low" in our moods -
to imagine how to accommodate the extremes that are described
by - and in - those affected by the bi-polar syndrome. It appears to
offer great satisfaction in its "ups" but nature exacts the price in
its "downs". If Churchill was a sufferer it had no effect on his ability
to live long and take his rewards in other ways, personal and professional. It is to be hoped that others who see themselves as
affected by it should take comfort and help to allow them to get by
with as little of the "down" effect as possible while giving the world the benefit of the "up" whenever possible. Or, as the saying goes:
hang in there!
Comment is about This Rhyme Upsets the Rhymer – Understanding Bipolar Disorder (blog)
Original item by Don Matthews
Cynthia Buell Thomas
Sat 16th Mar 2019 15:22
This is an excellent contribution, and I don't give a damn that it's not in poetical 'form'. The language and its formatting are pure 'poetry' as is its very topical and interesting subject. LIFE qualifies!
Comment is about PRIAPUS (blog)
Original item by John Coopey