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Kenneth Eaton-Dykes

Thu 22nd Aug 2013 16:34

Hi John.

Came across the aquillrelle anthology from a couple of years ago that my daughter bought for me after I'd had a poem published. Wondering if there were any other W.O.L poets listed, I looked,and there you were, your contribution being the excellent little epoch about the mine disaster.

Wonderful entertaining stuff yours! never read a bad one. I get the impression you find it easy?

Unlike me, many more pages deleted. than survive.

Ken.

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 21st Aug 2013 23:43

Surrered = suffered?
MC

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Shirley Smothers

Wed 21st Aug 2013 21:24

Hi John,

I do agree with you about the word "Did" in my poem "Daddy". I posted a second version "Daddy edited version." I just left out the word did.
Thank you for your kind comments. But actually my Dad passed on Dec.9 2009. I have only recently been able to write about it.

Thanks,
Shirley

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Shirley Smothers

Wed 21st Aug 2013 21:21

Hello M.C.

I was unsure about the word "Did" in my poem "Daddy". Thanks for your input. I have a second version "Daddy edited poem". I just left out the word did. Thank you for the nice comments.

Shirley

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 21st Aug 2013 15:36

Shirley - agree with JC about "did". It has a smack of "ye old English" about it. Difficult to replace - but keeping the overall deep feeling of the piece, I would have gone for something like..."and love saw us cry"...which also maintains "rhythm" in the words.
Best wishes,
MC

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M.C. Newberry

Wed 21st Aug 2013 15:26

Terse. crisp and effective. The use of Jackie K's bright life-affirming outfit is perfectly chosen as the counterpoint to her famous husband's shocking murder. This was the event that, for many across the world, defined their youthful angst...a dream of a bright new world snatched from them for all that world to see. Back and to the side...back and to the side...that simple law of physics blew away the usual conscience-salver of American politics - the lone nut killer. The extraordinary list of those with something to say who died in the weeks and months that followed in a variety of circumstances that have been described in betting terms as many millions to one only underlines the planning and determination behind this most infamous of political killings.

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Tommy Carroll

Wed 21st Aug 2013 14:26

''whoops'' give me a break.

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Nigel Astell

Wed 21st Aug 2013 14:05

A black bloody day in the history of Manchester
perhaps we remember more for the wrong reasons.

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Nigel Astell

Wed 21st Aug 2013 14:00

Hi Andy

We all miss you at Stockport hope to see you soon.

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Nigel Astell

Wed 21st Aug 2013 13:49

Hi Ann

Ian has just joined Stockport Write Out Loud and came along to the last meeting.

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Laura Taylor

Wed 21st Aug 2013 09:41

Nicely done Ian. The tension wrought by the short snappy lines is very good, as is the wrapping of the poem within the frame of the pink dress. The rhythm is also nice and tight. The lack of punctuation and capital letters is effective to give a sparse, spare feel to it - like an almost shocked reaction.

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Isobel

Wed 21st Aug 2013 08:43

An interesting read - thank you. This does go to prove what I've always thought about slams and competitive poetry - humorous/witty poetry just doesn't stand a chance against serious stuff, no matter how well it's written or presented.

Personally, I like a poet who can show versatility - make em laugh as well as cry - but judges don't seem to - and audiences too when it comes to the crunch.

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Simon Marks

Wed 21st Aug 2013 00:16

Thanks for so many kind comments - and a technical analysis of my words way beyond my simple understandings. I simply write what comes into my head and if it sounds right, then great.
Having said that, I did use a song dynamic with the middle stanza - a sort of middle eight, if you like.
Cheers again, Simon.

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Ian Whiteley

Tue 20th Aug 2013 23:20

Good one Marksy - namechecked a few of my favourite bands there - still bloody difficult listening to some of those early JAMC singles :-) - I'm more of a 70's guy myself though - the god that is Weller who has morphed a number of times but never let me down (although the Style Council tested my patience). Nice nostalgic piece - the irony and despair of tainted idols shines through
Ian

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Ian Whiteley

Tue 20th Aug 2013 23:10

really enjoyed this Mike - a difficult read (as you say)but the backing track is also creepy and sinister. The lyric is very dark and, some would say, perverse - but it is very honest and powerful. Liked the whole of it - lyric & tune - great stuff mate
Ian

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Julian (Admin)

Tue 20th Aug 2013 23:09

Thanks for this Lettie, great report. It sounds to have been a cracking final.

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John Coopey

Tue 20th Aug 2013 20:31

Heartfelt and simple Shirley.
If I was being picky I didn't like the "did" in "did cry". It always feels like a spacer to me.
On another level, if this is personal and recent, my condolences.

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John Coopey

Tue 20th Aug 2013 20:23

Fine poem, Ian.
Very vivid.
I'm not so sure about the "saviour" bit.
I've seen a lot of them!

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John Coopey

Tue 20th Aug 2013 20:17

Go for it MC.
F**k the detractors.

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M.C. Newberry

Tue 20th Aug 2013 16:59

Hello JC - I can get the words and a tune
together but you have that extra ability to
accompany and perform your own stuff. Long may
it be so!!
P.S. I'm having DKJC promoted on a Hotdisc
compilation that gets sent to Country music DJs
around Europe and beyond in September. Nothing
ventured...nothing gained - as they say. Plus -
it's also promised a few online plays on www.ukcountryradio.com then. Bring it on!!

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Laura Taylor

Tue 20th Aug 2013 13:50

No, it's not waffle at all, and I completely understand. Sometimes I want a little knowledge ahead of it all, sometimes I don't, but what I hate most of all is having someone else's knowledge imposed on me. Monothought makes me itch all over.

I enjoyed reading your post as much as your poem, as it goes :)

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Marianne Louise Daniels

Tue 20th Aug 2013 11:10

Thank you for your time and comments and for following too Cynthia!

Laura - yes! Thank you for taken what you have taken from this poem for that is, unfortunately, how I feel sometimes. I do think that there is an elitist attitude sometimes that strips away the question of a differing response to art being accepted rather than just being simplified and i think sometimes this is due to a self imposed importance that sometimes academics place upon themselves. I encountered a few pretentious exercises during my undergraduate degree when it came to the prospect of working with certain tutors - almost as if it was proving your intellectual fuckery (if you pardon my language) in order to write which is not how I see it all at all. (I must say i did end up work with two excellent people during that time - Michael Schmidt and the late and beautiful Linda Chase who inspired me a great deal).

The further I continue with my own little writing journey, the more I am confused and the more art I see, the more child like I wish to become - I have this wish to stand in front of work as if i was the only want to see it, without the jargon of write ups or all those who have had their opinion before which cannot help but add to mine sometimes. I know this to be quite selfish I suppose but I am sometimes quite solitary in my walking about life, and so I suppose its my way of wanting to be friends with what I see! I do believe I am waffling now.

I had a bit of head on me this day. there is so much to love in the poetry world today too for I must say that my heart always wants to read those who throw their emotions completely into the wind and don't care how obscure, or how grandiose, or how unstructured their work chooses to be. That they have expressed some beauty within or outside themselves which is too painful to keep in rather than write tightly and appreciative of competitions and alike.

I love reading stuff at Ravenna press at the moment too. Beautiful work there.

"Beauty will be compulsive or it will not be at all." Andre Breton (x)


Thank you and again sorry for waffle! x

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garside

Tue 20th Aug 2013 07:14

apols for the delay Cate - thanks for reading :-)

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Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:34

what!? no Stranglers!!(cool poem)xx

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:21

Harry - delighted you found and enjoyed "Daddy Knew Johnny Cash".
I knew I was on to something when a pal of many
years - a published suthor of a book about the
origins of the Oxford Dictionary and a retired
lecturer in English at a Canadian university - told me how much he had enjoyed it. Just shows you never
quite know who - or where - your audience might be!!
Now -an annoyed P.s. - however much I have tried to make the above lines neat and tidy - they are
reproduced here like the product of some wayward sub-editor's untidy mind. Most aggravating.
Apologies!

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John Coopey

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:19

Hello Isobel,
Thankyou for you thoughts on "WriteOutLoud Women Blues".
Glad to see that the depths of my crudity do not disappoint you! Of course, I don't know what half of those poetry terms mean - I had to look them up.

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John Coopey

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:15

Hello Foxy,
Thankyou for reading "WriteOutLoud Women Blues". There's a lot goes on in my head (not much outside!)

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John Coopey

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:12

Hello MC,
Glad you enjoyed "WriteOutLoud Women Blues".
I have to say it's not a patch on your Johnny Cash tribute.

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:12

Titter ye not
If ye squitter a lot!
Anally retentive is not a phrase to mess with
here!!

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John Coopey

Mon 19th Aug 2013 21:10

Hello Starfish,
Thankyou for reading (maybe listening to) "WriteOutLoud Women Blues". I didn't mean to alarm you with my manifesto!

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Isobel

Mon 19th Aug 2013 19:45

Well if you were to ask me to lick this piece into shape, I'd have to say that some of the demonstrative and possessive pronouns in your song were at odds with the written format - perhaps you became more demonstrative and possessive as you got really into your subject matter, John?

For now, I think I'll echo Ann - but I did have a jolly good chuckle - and I LOVE the blues - the guitar work and the flow of your poetry. Did it just trip of your tongue John?

We should do a double act - when I'm being smutty, I think I could out-smut you!

;)) x

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Jonnie Falafel

Mon 19th Aug 2013 16:36

E-motion recalled in tranquility as Wordsworth might have said!

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 19th Aug 2013 15:27

Oooh, sorry if I've got mixed up! Looks like you've done plenty! (Who's Ian?) :)

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Nigel Astell

Mon 19th Aug 2013 15:23

Ann I think you mean Ian or do you want me to do a bit more?

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Nigel Astell

Mon 19th Aug 2013 15:18

Inside the lines
the boy smiles
what is missing
is your love.

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darren thomas

Mon 19th Aug 2013 13:14

Hi Ann - thanks for the 'hello'. :)

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Karen Robinson

Mon 19th Aug 2013 13:03

Thanks for your comments John and for listening to my lastest entry.

Rhyme is not dead yet and though it might be outmoded in some quarters, the proverbial man on the street still enjoys it. I do hope your rhymes are not changing!

Karen.

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Karen Robinson

Mon 19th Aug 2013 12:49

Thanks for your comments on Grumpy Summer and thanks for listening.

Karen.

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Karen Robinson

Mon 19th Aug 2013 12:38

Thanks for listening to "Grumpy Summer" and your comments. I appreciate it. You highlighted the lines I rather like myself!

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Isobel

Mon 19th Aug 2013 11:04

Enjoyable review - I'm fascinated by the combination of poetry and comedy. Many poets try to cross over into comedy - it's interesting to hear of comedians doing the same thing - with or without success.

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Isobel

Mon 19th Aug 2013 10:20

Thanks for your comment on my Beautiful poem - I'll try to perform it next time I'm at the spoke - and I'll expect you to join in on the chorus!

xx

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Sun 18th Aug 2013 22:05

despite no mention of the Clash,
I love this piece.x

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Harry O'Neill

Sun 18th Aug 2013 20:40



Disappointment, Anne, disappointment.

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 17:28

nice stuff with a great ending dave. top one

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 17:28

the use of the slight change at the end of the stanzas works really well here. have you tried this live yet? it should work really well

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 17:26

the last stanza is a killer, katy here but an top piece all round i think

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 17:24

interesting ideas, david. enjoyed.

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 16:55

hi m.c. - thanks for the comment regarding peterloo. it's a piece that means a lot to me and is still in flux a bit but pleased you liked it.

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 16:55

hi harry - thanks for the comment regarding peterloo. it's a piece that means a lot to me and is still in flux a bit but pleased you liked it.

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Andy N

Sun 18th Aug 2013 16:52

thanks guys. it's a piece which still in flux a bit means a lot to me and i am pleased to read your comments.

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