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Francine

Mon 5th Jul 2010 17:10

You relate so well life's painful, sometimes desperate longing for love, acceptance and understanding.
This poem speaks volumes...

xxx

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Lynn Dye

Mon 5th Jul 2010 15:45

Thanks Isobel - good point - I forgot to mention! x

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Isobel

Mon 5th Jul 2010 12:50

I see you lost the 6th stanza. Thought I'd mention it cos I wouldn't want anyone to think i was talking about the current one which fits in with the rest of the poem. x

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alisonsmiles68@gmail.com

Mon 5th Jul 2010 12:42

Succinct! Was the 6th line staled or stalled? I was just wondering if soured might relate to the milk more closely than staled?

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Mon 5th Jul 2010 10:16

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Mon 5th Jul 2010 10:15

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 5th Jul 2010 06:01

Just saying hello and hope you are well - and I miss you on here! xxxx

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 5th Jul 2010 05:59

Yea, I like this too - enigmatic, but says it all - you're never so lonely as when you're in a crowd - that's why I spend most of my time on my own! ;-) xx

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 5th Jul 2010 00:58

@Bond What has this poem got to do with you? Perhaps your rage is misplaced, perhaps you suffer from egotistical grandeur, perhaps I suffer from couldn't giva- a- shititis.

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Chris Dawson

Sun 4th Jul 2010 23:32

I see where you're coming from with the Leonard Cohen, but Brummie?!
Cx

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 23:02

this is lovely- i know the feeling.

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 20:30

Thanks Isobel for your kind comments on "Flesh", glad you like the re-write. To be honest, I wondered about the 6th stanza myself, and couldn't decide whether to keep it in or not. It's always true people will think differently but I value your opinion, thanks again. xx

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 20:00

ye cannae have 2much of a good 'thang!.....yeh baby! oh! I,ve gone all warm again-won,t tell you where-hee...hee...Stiffen-xx

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Isobel

Sun 4th Jul 2010 18:50

IMO this is much stronger than the rhyming version Lynn. I think that 'and bend to kiss my breast' is a much gentler, lovlier image than what you had earlier. In both versions, I like the first two lines - a bold and sensuous introduction to your poem. I'd probably order things differently. Have the stripping off first, the eyes and the french murmurings later... You have to just love poetry - so many avenues we can take when we construct a poem...

There are still refinements you could make if you were really wanting to refine this as a piece. I would get rid of the 'Now you are..' and just say what it is happening - so it doesn't feel like a list of happenings.I'd be tempted to lose the 6th stanza also and just concentrate on the joy of sex - with all the emotional connections implicit. That's for you to decide though. Every one who reads this will give you different opinions. It is hard to know sometimes whether to offer them... not wishing to undermine at all...It is a brave subject matter - I applaud you. x

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 18:31

Not sure about purpling . . . But may remove all the time checks! Got to the beach this morning and the RNLI board always has the tide times. 10.47 sounded like a good title. So I jotted it down sitting on a rock - not my special rock as that was still underwater!

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:47

Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your kind comments on "Flesh".
Just been reading your samples and latest blogs, all good stuff, especially like "Glastonbury - no more". Cheers, Lynn x

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:30

Lol, thanks to All.
On reflection I decided the first two lines of verse 4 didn't scan well, so I have re-written these, which actually now makes him not such a multi-lingual clever dick!!! (or a language teacher, hee hee!)
Free verse version to follow...
xx

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:29

The heather and the fluttering safety flags make a good contrast to an otherwise somber and threatening vista. I think the contrast is well defined, an atmospheric and chillingly brooding piece of work. The purpling heather in the North Yorkshire moors are beautiful in late summer.
TCX

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:21

I like purpling the hillside, but then what do I know? Lol. Good poem again, Ann x

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:16

Hi Ann, thanks for comments on "Flesh". I often do put in the odd humorous comment, so the "too hot to handle" line was intentional, but if any of the rest sounded comical then it wasn't intended! I shall post a free verse version as well.
Lol, love your comment on him being a language teacher! My REAL guy is the one who started to snore in "Warm Embrace", so this guy could be anything really, though I did say French AFTER A FASHION! Lol, Lynn xx

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 17:12

reminds me of a shop we have next door to our chippy-a flesh n sexshop! tee...hee..SW

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Graham Sherwood

Sun 4th Jul 2010 16:18

To me this is a jumbo pack of descriptives too tightly crammed to be be savoured. Dancing streets, restless bedrooms, crowded queues, tousled beds etc. Too much too quickly. it sometimes sounds like a list.

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Graham Sherwood

Sun 4th Jul 2010 16:13

There are so many good and bad things about this Ann.
I think that you have diluted your killer last line by using it twice before. I hate the thought of heather "purpling" but love the chaos of waves. I think "if you were there you wouldn't last long" is clumsy but really like the woolly grey sky and the thought of staring down the raging ocean. As always Ann thoughtful stuff.

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Isobel

Sun 4th Jul 2010 16:05

Hello Cynthia - an epic it is - that was the feeling I got from it before I read your comment. Your telling of this story is much like an that of an age old tale. It feels more like prose/story than poem to me but that is not a criticism - my latest was a bit like that. Your voice is very passionate and I like that - humanity and love survives amidst all the chaos and horror.

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 15:15

I am going to be brave and leave a comment, bearing in mind I don't know the rules of poetry etc, but I am not very good with long poems, bearing this in mind, unless they really flow, but I loved the dancing streets, I loved politics scissored flags, restless bedrooms is brilliant, I love that, I think there are a lot of good ideas, perhaps it should be slightly condensed, somehow, I don't know how, and I don't follow any rules, but am just trying to add a helpful comment, I hope, x

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 14:46

Blimey, if it's not Vaughan Williams or Marilyn Manson it's just not good enough! No pleasing some people! Just kick those size 5 cloggs off and go for it! x ;-)

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Jeff Dawson

Sun 4th Jul 2010 14:44

Blimey Lynn, something for every occasion it says on your profile, this is romantic and sensual for a sunday morning! Great stuff.

Thanks for comment on 'Our Father' - I had to keep changing the words as the nightmare got worse! ha, best wishes Jeff X

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Greg Freeman

Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:56

Thanks very much for your suggestions, Cynthia. You're right, it is a bit shambolic, as is most of my poetry, but the trouble is, it's meant to be a sonnet, and so removing lines 6 and 7 would put me in breach of the trades descriptions act!

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:43

Being a man of the cloth(ears) I find this quite,quite disgraceful,especially being a holy day-shocking! shocking! please write some more-ASAP! OOO! I,m overcome with emulsion-or something similar-ha!red 'ot! (HISSS)TEFAN-XXX

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Ray Miller

Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:18

Ann. Ta for your comments on Anything Goes. It's one of my Leonard Cohen impressions.

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Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:17

By gum, Alison! This opens a new perspective on climbing for me. Like the earthiness.

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:13

Hi - Just relocated to this poem- cos you updated your profile I guess - Think it is great, and it says it all - not sure about the Ken and Diedre photo though! But if you love someone, what the heck!

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Mia Darlone

Sun 4th Jul 2010 13:08

Thank you all for your comments, I'm sorry not to get back individually, I'll be more socialable on this site once my production is over and I've come up for air.

Mia x

PS Gus - I've gone brunette!

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 12:22

Hope things have improved since May 18th Crackling - it must have been very traumatic for you!

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 12:18

Wow! Latin, French and romance all at once! Is he a language teacher, your guy? x

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 12:16

Hi Lynn - I just saw Isobel's comment on Flesh and your reply to her about rhyming etc. Funnily enough, you said that rhyming works better in an amusing poem. I think that with Flesh, the rhyme almost made it into an amusing poem, which was probably not what you intended! It would be interesting to see a second version in free verse and compare. x

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Isobel

Sun 4th Jul 2010 12:10

Yep - I hear what you are saying. I often start of a poem in free verse and then whittle away at it until it near as damn it rhymes - it must be the musician in us... or old habits dying hard LOL x

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Lynn Dye

Sun 4th Jul 2010 12:07

Hi Isobel, thank you for commenting on "Flesh". Before I joined WOL I had only ever written rhyming poetry, but I have recently dabbled with free verse - in "Arillas" and "Warm Embrace" for instance, yet sometimes I have to actually change verses because they ended up rhyming anyway!! I actually think rhyming works better with comical poems, but free verse is probably better with the romantic. Thanks for advice anyway, always welcome, and I shall give it more of a try. xx

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sun 4th Jul 2010 11:45

I really like 'top-brass gleam in searing (summer) sun' and 'grave-sounding holy men'. The couplet at the end is also good. The driving 'beat' sometimes trips up and lessens the power of your words in this chosen form.

You encourage me to try a real sonnet also.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sun 4th Jul 2010 11:31

I'm with Graham all the way. Good piece, Ann. I'm beginning to think of your work as 'the Foxglove flair'.

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Isobel

Sun 4th Jul 2010 11:26

There are some nice ideas in here Lynn but some of the rhyme feels forced.
Have you ever tried writing in free verse? I found it really hard to do at first, cos like you, I like the musical feel of rhyme. Sometimes free verse does feel more natural though. x

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sun 4th Jul 2010 11:17

I like the sentiment. Saying it has 'potential' sounds so snarky, but it is what I do think. I know the lack of 'form' is implicit with the Woolie's idea of harum-scarum goods for sale, but I still think it could be, as a poem, more organized to fully express your thought. I would drop lines 6 and 7 of the first stanza as an example. I don't see what they contribute to encapsulate your idea.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sun 4th Jul 2010 11:03

Yes, Graham, I did. Chris Co was very encouraging about it, but it just 'fizzled' before. I'm kind of keen to see if any newer WOLers have any comments. It was a marked departure in style, sort of epic in character. (I use the word 'epic' rather loosely!)

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Graham Sherwood

Sun 4th Jul 2010 10:35

Sorry I didn't see your comment before I posted!

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Graham Sherwood

Sun 4th Jul 2010 10:34

Have you posted this before Cynthia? Something is certainly reminiscent of this in my head?

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sun 4th Jul 2010 10:31

When I read this in Sale last week I was appalled to find I had in my hand a 'very early' version. But who would know, except me. I'm done with revising now. War is big on everyone's minds, as always.

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 4th Jul 2010 09:58

I can honestly say I have never had a creamy whirl - but do you remember Jubblies?

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Rachel Bond

Sun 4th Jul 2010 00:11

i love this, especially;
'i ate the black
and my viens turned white,
the line of chalk between us
sometimes smeared.
it all reminds me of alice through the glass..lovely x

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Rachel Bond

Sun 4th Jul 2010 00:06

i like the way you describe the affection...but the ending made me cringe...maybe im just fed up of people batting their eyes and talking shit at me thinking it make them delicously unnattainable and unique yet they all do it thomas....im not impressed, short pauses annoy me. but i do like the way youve described that cascade of feeling. and its only my jaded opinion.

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Crackling

Sat 3rd Jul 2010 23:19

Gremlins Gorn or sleeping Winston.

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