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C Byrne

Sat 8th Dec 2012 18:27

me likey!

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Sat 8th Dec 2012 17:51

Very moving.

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steve pottinger

Sat 8th Dec 2012 17:02

Third time lucky, Francine! I've finally posted it so people can comment.... :-)

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Chris Co

Sat 8th Dec 2012 16:52

Hey Francine,

Glad to raise a smile. I'm too serious at times. Good to break out a bit :)

Hi Tony,

Is anything safe? Probably? - always a good answer :)

Best

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Francine

Sat 8th Dec 2012 16:15

Somebody will read this and come to your rescue!

I would think just copying and pasting the link would work...

http://youtu.be/U_KG6BqiyPs

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steve pottinger

Sat 8th Dec 2012 16:09

Thanks Anthony & Francine! I'm really glad you enjoyed the video - it's a bit nerve-wracking, seeing myself on screen....
I've no idea why the 'comments' function on the blog leads to a blank screen. I tried re-posting the link, but the same thing happens. Sadly my computer literacy is below par and I don't quite understand what to do to set it right....

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Francine

Sat 8th Dec 2012 16:00

Hi Steve,

I watched the video on YouTube and thought it was extremely well produced - a message delivered with humour and a Robin Hood philosophy.
Like Anthony said, it adds a whole new dimension to the feel of the words...

Thank you for sharing!

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Anthony Emmerson

Sat 8th Dec 2012 15:23

Hi Steve,

Just wanted to let you know how much I admired your "angry Poet" video. For some reason I can't seem to open your blog post to comment there, the link just takes me to a blank screen (?) - maybe you should check it out. Also left comments on YouTube. Very well done.

Regards,
A.E.

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steve pottinger

Sat 8th Dec 2012 12:09

Thanks very much, Francine! So glad you enjoyed it. I've just this minute uploaded a video of me reading the poem on Youtube. Filmed in an empty pub in Birmingham....

http://youtu.be/U_KG6BqiyPs

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M.C. Newberry

Sat 8th Dec 2012 11:48

A tragic event. The poor woman must have felt
she could not confide in or seek support from others to bring herself to do such a thing.
It may also be that her origins may have
enforced any sense of responsibility/shame in
such a high-profile incident. The effects of
her decision extend beyond that decision...not
unlike the original call made by those Aussie
pranksters!

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Anthony Emmerson

Sat 8th Dec 2012 11:02

Will this really help literacy in schools - or is it just Goving through the Motion?

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tony sheridan

Sat 8th Dec 2012 02:04

Fantastic!! Love it!! Take care, Tony.

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tony sheridan

Sat 8th Dec 2012 01:54

Nice one Hugh! Take care, Tony.

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tony sheridan

Sat 8th Dec 2012 01:52

Is anything safe? Nice one. Take care, Tony.

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Francine

Sat 8th Dec 2012 01:38

I read this today and it really made me sad, in so many ways.
She obviously took this very personally and felt belittled in front of the world. It was a senseless loss of life. You just never know to what extent your words and actions affect someone...

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Chris Co

Sat 8th Dec 2012 00:42

Hey Isobel,

Thx for reading and commenting - ta.

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I think that plenty of highly intelligent people do end up as vagrants. My mum knew a tramp who went everywhere with a little briefcase. When he went into hospital they found out it contained his degree paperwork.
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It's a lesson to all of us, not to be too ready to judge the book by the cover. Or at least, try to defend against that notion as best we can.

This poem is firmly based in reality. Though I admit to having used artistic licence, to try to make it more poetic.

In the real situation 'Alan' is highly intelligent and relatively well off. At the time he was driving a very nice car and living in one part of the country with a flat in another. It just so happens he isn't vain and was I guess the term would be - dressing down for the day.

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I was a bit confused by this initially. I think you could have ordered it a little better.
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You may well be right, I was trying to bring cognitive dissonance into the poem and the style also is somewhat of a departure.

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Perhaps given each character their own verse.
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I think that is what I would have done more typically; I agree - it's definitely a way to have gone.

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The dense looking tatooed man could just as easily be your friend the actuary, given the subject matter... but your comment says there are 3 men, and no women.
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Mmm I don't see that myself, not sure. The 3rd person is the narrator which I would presume people would take to mean me. Then again, maybe that is wrong - hard to say.

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I would have replaced that full stop in the second verse with a comma also.
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I had about 6 different drafts, differing line breaks, enjambment, no enjambment, differing stanzas. Differing grammar. A bit mad really, but even with very small poems my editing is very OCD. In one draft, I had the comma you spoke of Hehe. I changed it because I like the sound and clause of;

Piano recitals at 5
a piece of child prodigy

viewed in a pub
through views unkind.

As one unit of sound. I found that if I used a comma in place of a full stop, the reader most likely ran out of air and died before reaching the words 'views unkind'. If I had chosen the comma, I would have had to alter the rest of the stanza for sound and go a differing route. Maybe a differing route would have been better, hard to say. Your point is definitely valid/might have been better to go that way.

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It's a good subject for a poem and not one I can remember reading about before. Who would, but we all do, to some extent.
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Thx. The subject in the this context and in a wider setting is very interesting to me. I also think we all have prejudice; to differing degrees. I guess the key is to be aware, limit it where possible etc and try not to act upon it. Maybe not to be to haughty if we see it in others too. I think a lot comes down to parenting and what is handed down. I have been fortunate, as have many of us. Most people have benign prejudice and not much more - I feel sorry for those with bigger bundles to carry.

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Just read that back to myself. Sorry if it sounds negative. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that you could probably have made more out of this subject - taken it further - which is pretty rich coming from me as I can't seem to get my head round tackling any subjects at the moment :)

Hey ho.
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No need to apologise - I think your right. It doesn't sound negative either; it's good feedback.

I suppose part of what I was trying to do was catch a wider issue in a small sphere. That idea made me go for a more self contained situation, rather than paint in bigger broader brush strokes.

But the food for thought is good - ta.

Best

Chris

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Francine

Sat 8th Dec 2012 00:33

OMG - I was told to read this, and just so you know - I dreamt about rain gear the night before last. I don't think I have EVER dreamt about rain gear. EVER. Not that I remember anyway... I texted the other person in the dream and asked them what it all means??? They have NO CLUE either! LOL

AND... I always order the Grande Mocha too (but decaf with soy - no whip). Really has gotten super expensive though... Got a giftcard yesterday for Starbucks too - from a student I tutor! Small world huh?

I remember Greg Freeman saying something about this - 'Starbucks has paid no corporation tax on UK profits for the past three years' when he was sent an invitation by me (not really) to join a 'Starbucks Event'...

LOL

'smiles,
and tells me I still owe her £5.74.'

'I’m a poet who loves words loves people
and believes some things are worth getting angry about
and if you don’t see the difference
between those two
then I probably lost you
soon after I put my rain gear on
back at the start.'
(you haven't lost me - I am with you ALL THE WAY here!)

Great ending to this too!

'and as the winter sun
breaks through the clouds
and the windows of the City
are a seamless wall of gold,
I look around,
one poet in a sea of millions

and by god, we’re smiling.'

LOVE, LOVE, LOVED reading this, Steve!
Brilliant, passionate, and full of truth!


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Isobel

Sat 8th Dec 2012 00:07

Just read that back to myself. Sorry if it sounds negative. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that you could probably have made more out of this subject - taken it further - which is pretty rich coming from me as I can't seem to get my head round tackling any subjects at the moment :)

Hey ho.

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Isobel

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:56

I think that plenty of highly intelligent people do end up as vagrants. My mum knew a tramp who went everywhere with a little briefcase. When he went into hospital they found out it contained his degree paperwork.

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Isobel

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:52

I was a bit confused by this initially. I think you could have ordered it a little better. Perhaps given each character their own verse. The dense looking tatooed man could just as easily be your friend the actuary, given the subject matter... but your comment says there are 3 men, and no women.

I would have replaced that full stop in the second verse with a comma also.

It's a good subject for a poem and not one I can remember reading about before. Who would, but we all do, to some extent.

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Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:35

Hi Noris.
On all these issues
you write how I feel.

And the imbalance is getting worse.

My best regards to you

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Francine

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:34

This made me laugh, Chris, AND Harry :-)
(I love the smell of sandalwood...)

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Isobel

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:28

This is a bit of a depressing one, smack before Christmas. It is sadly true for many though.

I'm with Francine on those last few lines - they pack some punch, particularly if you are a parent. The likelihood of our kids owning a house gets slimmer by the decade as well as the chance of them ever paying off their education.

But if anyone feels like slitting their wrists, don't do it before the next Tudor, which is on this Thursday. The innkeeper's door will definitely be made of wood and it's welcomed folk for as long as the name suggests!

Merry Christmas to you Sid, Francine, Mike :) xxx

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Francine

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:28

Je n'aime pas la fin... mais je comprends.

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Francine

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:24

I missed this one! Guess your message to me wasn't personal enough! LOL
OBVIOUSLY I like it, or I wouldn't have bothered to comment... ;-)

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Francine

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:20

Great ending to this Ray.

'but there’s no call for you, my son,
For Bethlehem is bolted shut
and there no jobs in this England.'

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Chris Co

Fri 7th Dec 2012 23:10

I like the thoughts and their diction Harry; hehe.

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 7th Dec 2012 22:17


Chris,
As Alexander Pope would have said `that stuff is to `die` for`

( And - be fair - who ever reads the small print anyway?)

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 7th Dec 2012 21:48


John,

Just had to join in the homage (particularly that `skunk`ll/ uncle`...those things are hard to come by)

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 7th Dec 2012 21:43


Andy,
Good, workman-like social protest stuff...
and all to the point.

Keep it up!

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Harry O'Neill

Fri 7th Dec 2012 21:39

This reads (last stanza?) as the death - or perhaps (first stanza?) the suicide of an ice-skating friend. Or perhaps someone with a skater`s oblivion to danger?

I also, wonder how it would be performed.I liked the `frozen sparks`

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Chris Co

Fri 7th Dec 2012 20:43

A Christmas gift for that special lady, or man in your life.

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Mikhail Smith

Fri 7th Dec 2012 20:19

Hello Jade .. thank-you .. yes, I signed in, a dark cloud descended, and I wrote that .. must've been something I had for tea !! .. no seriously I log in then make myself write for a few minutes - that's where that came from .. m .s.
10-12-12 - thanks again - no it's not clever I write down my first/immediate thoughts then edit and prune a bit till they look strong enough to stand up - then I abandon it for ever .. cheers!






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Chris Co

Fri 7th Dec 2012 19:57

Haha I can see the irony your speaking of Cathy, but I also see a wonderful and entirely legitimate take on the words. I think your reading exists from certain cues in the language that are very definite; Prejudice, 3 men in a bar, each looking over at one another, no women present, Navy Tattoo can be down the docks straight or butch. Piano recitals - could indicate in the context of the other words a certain artistic flair. And a 'look at you' tone can easily be deduced.

Haha So I really like the fact that a totally differing angle and direction is in there. x

Someone once wrote something along the lines of; anything I write is all of my intention, until it is published. Then the words become the intentions of others.

I think there is a lot of truth in that - poems have to be what can be taken from the words. Some poets hate that, some struggle, some like the fact.

I am in the middle usually - but sometimes, like here - it is really good/likable.

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Chris


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Mick Waring

Fri 7th Dec 2012 19:10

.. thanks John - think I'm passed the Lynx effect .. and that's the only time I worked in an office !!

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John Coopey

Fri 7th Dec 2012 16:18

Liked it, Anthony.
Especially "arabesque and pirouette" - why on earth am I reminded of "for Pierrot and Columbine" in "The Carnival is Over"?

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John Coopey

Fri 7th Dec 2012 16:15

Enjoyed this, Mick.
Better for being spoken over the backtrack.
On another front - a word to the wise. Try Lynx.

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Jade

Fri 7th Dec 2012 16:11

I really liked this. The internal rhymes draw you in. It seems to be quite fast-paced as well. Nice.

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Mike Hilton

Fri 7th Dec 2012 15:05

Very clever and enjoyable Sid.

Take care
Mike

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Mike Hilton

Fri 7th Dec 2012 14:46

Excellenty John!
Loved the Cloughie bit.I wonder if he's playing on the great pitch in the sky?

Mike

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Ray Miller

Fri 7th Dec 2012 14:45

I like the language, nice rhythm. Why on earth would you end the line on "the"?

Scribing arcs across the


ice, arabesque and pirouette, sharp turns

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Rachel Bond

Fri 7th Dec 2012 14:33

thanks jeff glad you like.

ste, i like these film meetings that you combine for comparison. im happy with the description...:)

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David Cooke

Fri 7th Dec 2012 09:20

Hi Cynthia good to hear from you again. I haven't been that active on WOL for a while! Anyway I'm glad you liked my poem about Herbie Nicholls.

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Paul Maxey

Fri 7th Dec 2012 08:58

Hi C, I really enjoyed reading your Work,especially liked the imagery
Of Place De L'Eglise

Regards Paul.

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winston plowes

Thu 6th Dec 2012 21:25

Hi Isobel, This exhibition is now over but Steve tells me there are plans for it to reappear elswhere so watch this space. Win

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winston plowes

Thu 6th Dec 2012 21:24

Hi Isobel, This exhibition is now over but Steve tells me there are plans for it to reappear elswhere so watch this space. Win

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Isobel

Thu 6th Dec 2012 21:14

Totty - spurs - that figures ;)

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Greg Freeman

Thu 6th Dec 2012 20:58

Who is Katherine Jenkins? Isobel - Graham supports Spurs, I support Chelsea. I hope that helps

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Thu 6th Dec 2012 20:57

These lines have a lovely element of unusual metaphors such as: 'which squeezed your breath while you sang to make the unbridled fear fall asleep in a whisper' and several others. They were not easy to find as the line breaks didn't lead me naturally into them. I did wonder whether you had any 'plan' to use the 'turns' that you did. The poem was worth sticking with to acquire more familiarity.

Welcome to WOL. You'll enjoy the group here, especially if you begin to take an active part. IMO, don't be shy to comment on the work of others, and don't be thin-skinned about comments on your own work. We are a motley group with diverse interests, as a good site should be.

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Isobel

Thu 6th Dec 2012 20:32

My sister Cate totally agreed with your appraisal of her Cynthia - talented but...

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