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Laura Taylor

Mon 10th Dec 2012 15:12

Some wonderful lines in this Rach - love that second verse, and am liking the humour you've brought in to it too

See you Thursday! I was going to dress up but I've got fuck all to wear ;D

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Laura Taylor

Mon 10th Dec 2012 15:10

Heh - made me chuckle, Chris :)

It's that time of the year when I am bearing a permanent sneer, especially on the drive home from work, with all the bloody decs up. How many bulbs dya need? Must be 72 on your front shrub alone!!

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Laura Taylor

Mon 10th Dec 2012 15:09

Excellent performance Steve - really enjoyed this :)

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 10th Dec 2012 13:34

Hi Alexandra - welcome to WOL. Your poem brought back a memory to me - my teddy's head fell off onec too - into next doors garden! Luckily he got his head back and my mum sewed it on again! Hope you enjoy the WOL experience!

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Ann Foxglove

Mon 10th Dec 2012 13:30

Hi Anna - welcome to WOL.

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M.C. Newberry

Mon 10th Dec 2012 13:09

Hello Steve - I appreciate the kindness of your
comment on "Spare Us". I suppose it came to mind in response to a lot of the negative (to
me) positions taken in poetry nowadays - and
the approach to Christmas also seemed a good
time to be positive about the gift of life!
I note from the rhythm in your own words that
you enjoy the appeal of verse. We belong to
a club that may be somewhat out of fashion but
never fails to offer its members a window for
"seeing" and responding to the wider world.
All good wishes...
MC

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Isobel

Mon 10th Dec 2012 12:44

Oh Anthony - you are awful! Only you would have thought to run your cursor over that picture. Perhaps it needs some further explanation. You have to run the cursor over whilst at the same time depressing your index finger - that way you get the sign :)

That's a really gross picture John but I love the idea of it representing Pinkie and Perkie with just a perineum between them!

I'm impressed that you've acquired some technical knowledge John - now perhaps you can start learning what to do with those parts :)

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Anthony Emmerson

Mon 10th Dec 2012 12:07

Hi Ray,

Topical (on two fronts) and inventive, but these lines lost me:

"and I have seen his ears stand"

"who undercuts the living down"

Maybe it's part of the colloquial you are using, or maybe (more likely) me being thick.

Regards,
A.E.

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Nigel Astell

Mon 10th Dec 2012 11:50

I have asked Santa or is that Julian in a long red coat with a funny white beard for some books to bring along for tonight!

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Greg Freeman

Mon 10th Dec 2012 11:46

Results of the 2012 competition here http://www.prolebooks.co.uk/page6.html

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Julian (Admin)

Mon 10th Dec 2012 11:30

excellent reportage from the Broadhurst family Christmas Paul. Good hear from you and to have seen you at the poetry jam. Keep up the good work!

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Julian (Admin)

Mon 10th Dec 2012 10:08

So true, Anthony. at the risk of turning this into a dissertation, your comment invites mention of the countless research reports that have pointed out the need for young people to have imagination, creativity and thinking skills rather than 'followership' skills. In the 80s when the Thatcher government was demanding more-vocational education with technical, work-related skills, successful Japanese companies were saying they could teach the technical stuff to their employees, what they wanted were young people with a good broad education, adaptability etc. Ditto the Cambridge Industrial Training Research Unit's A-Z study...
Stuff the government. I know, let's have a revolution! come on. Tonight, once the pub's shut.

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Steve Higgins

Mon 10th Dec 2012 03:13

Enjoyed this very much MC,
-Steve

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Anthony Emmerson

Mon 10th Dec 2012 01:20

Madness? Don't worry Katy, I've got shedloads, and plenty to spare. Maybe Santa could drop some off for you?

Regards,
A.E.

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Anthony Emmerson

Mon 10th Dec 2012 01:10

I totally agree with you Julian/Isobel. Although I don't have children I feel that there is a great imbalance in our education system. Maybe this is due to the view that schools need to equip children for the employment market, which chooses its recruits via how many academic, one-size-fits-all qualifications they have achieved, Somewhere along the line creativity and free-thinking have become casualties of this philosophy. The vast majority of today's employees are little more than automata, carrying out mindless repetitive tasks with no input into how that work is done, or say in how their employers "manage" the organisation. I feel this stifling of creativity has a much greater effect on both the individual and society than we realise. It fosters a huge amout of dissatisfaction and resentment and inhibits progress and invention, which has to be unhealthy for both society and the individual.

In the future we may look back on this particular aspect of the way society and employment currently operate with both regret and revulsion . . . at least I hope we will . . .

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Anthony Emmerson

Mon 10th Dec 2012 00:55

I can't really comment on the poem John, as the technical terms you are using are all unfamiliar to me. Love the accompanying pic of David Cameron and George Osborne though. (I'm guessing, but I think that might be a perineum between them.)

Regards,
A.E.

p.s. Just had a strange deja vu experience! Move your cursor over the pic and check out the label it produces - well I never!

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Tommy Carroll

Mon 10th Dec 2012 00:04

haha indeed ;o)

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tony sheridan

Sun 9th Dec 2012 21:56

What can I say?...... More audios please. Take care, Tony.

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tony sheridan

Sun 9th Dec 2012 21:51

LOVE THIS! More audios please. Your poems sound Brill. Going to listen to part two. Take care, Tony.

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Jeff Dawson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 21:46

Great writing, powerful stuff and well put together.

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tony sheridan

Sun 9th Dec 2012 21:27

Like your sample poem Denis. Last two lines are spot on! Take care,Tony.

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M.C. Newberry

Sun 9th Dec 2012 20:48

A thought - if super glue can be used for helping to heal wounds, why not the hymen? Also - brought on by JC's lines...
Is it goodbye to words like foreplay and lube
Once science makes new life in a test-tube?

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John Coopey

Sun 9th Dec 2012 18:11

Nice sentiment, MC.
So many feel poetry has to be weighty or angry or carping. It can be - but it doesn't have to be.
And for me I'm afraid I tire of its "worthiness"!

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John Coopey

Sun 9th Dec 2012 17:18

hello Anthony,
Glad you liked "If". Yes, the "skunk'll/uncle" rhyme needed a bit of knocking in!

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John Coopey

Sun 9th Dec 2012 17:17

Hello MC,
Glad you liked "If". I had a lot of time for Cloughie - probably the best manager I've seen.
He took 2 mediocre teams from the lower divisions, Forest and Derby, and won 2 Championships and 2 European Cups with them.

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John Coopey

Sun 9th Dec 2012 17:13

Hello Mike
Glad you liked "If". Yes, I bet Cloughie's watching the matches with interest.

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Jeff Dawson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 16:18

Hi Mikhail, welcome to WOL, sorry for delay in replying to cadence Qs, if you want to add me on facebook I can keep you informed of future events in addition to info on here.

I also organise Bolton poetry noghts if you fancy that, been very busy lately but will catch up with your work soon, cheers Jeff

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steve pottinger

Sun 9th Dec 2012 15:59

Thanks very much for the kind words, Julian. Hugely appreciated. And yes, it's hard not to feel sorr - Oh. No, it isn't. ;-)

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Sun 9th Dec 2012 15:21

love it.

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 9th Dec 2012 15:05

I note the amount of money spent on this. We cannot get funding and we support far more and more valuable work right across the country. trouble is, we went to the wrong schools.

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 9th Dec 2012 15:03

So true Isobel. Not enough creativity, self expression being encouraged in secondary schools. There's nothing wrong with learning how to read poetry but it completely misses the opportunity writing and reading your own work present. It seems to me to be part of that 'keep the buggers down' mentality that is afraid of the live poetry movement that we are pushing to become a part of everyone's lives. In the early nineteenth century MPs continually questioned the point of having universal schooling. What was the point teaching the poor to read? Now it's 'what is the point teaching the masses to write?" because, THEY, are the ones who can write proper poetry, not oiks like us.
I am delighted to tell you that my granddaughter decided to write herself a haiku the other day, proper 5/7/5 (Senryu, I know, but she's only 6). they taught them about Haiku in her primary school. It has just had criticism from OFSTED. funny old world.

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Sun 9th Dec 2012 13:51

Agree with previous comments.

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Gus Jonsson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 13:12

My Pc and I had an argument about that... it corrected the 'lies' to 'lays'... is it american or some such....??? anyway thanx for the typo nonetheless...and yes I am in My fathers Belt mode at the mo... Thankyou for your valued comments as usual...

...havn't seen ya since the sweary lady fainted
at Middleton

I hope you are well.

Gus
Stay in touch.

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 9th Dec 2012 13:01

A tour de force, Steve. Magnificent and important. I've put it on our FB pages and my own. Mind you, you do have to feel sorry for Starbucks, not making a profit. Presumably they are still operating here out of some charitable commitment to the UK? Hmm.

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 9th Dec 2012 13:00

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Gus Jonsson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 12:57

Sorry Isobel there was no insult intended to Wigans hallowed seat of learning and all things Thomas...its that since I was knee height to a pair of your legs...The Tudor has been all ways been known, on the gigs circuit, affectionately of course, as the Bear Pit....

... times have changed, we all live in gentle times now....I'm off to watch the Manchester Derby.....Comeon you Reds!!!!!

Lots of love

Gus xx

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Julian (Admin)

Sun 9th Dec 2012 12:54

You are wearing your father's belt again, methinks Gus. powerful stuff. The word 'lays' does not lie easy here: 'lies' better, more grammatical? Unless it is a reference to some sordid act?

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Jade

Sun 9th Dec 2012 12:50

Wow, that's impressive if you wrote it in a few minutes - I take weeks to get something/anything down. I hope the dark cloud descends more often if it makes you write like that. Jade x

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Isobel

Sun 9th Dec 2012 11:55

Wigan isn't a bear pit - I'd dispute that accusation to the bitter end. We like a laugh - but on the whole I don't think you'd find a more respectful audience in the North West. I've been to plenty where poets give the impression they are listening because they are sat there quietly - but they must be intent on thinking about what they are about to perform next - cos they don't react to the bits they should react to. There are a lot of egos out there. I'd say that on the whole ALL poets are valued at the Tudor.

I can appreciate that being told to 'cheer up' can be a bit irksome when you aren't up to it though. Perhaps it's just a case of riding out the storm and knowing where to go when it's all over. Hope to see you at something soon anyway. xx

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Gus Jonsson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 10:28

Thank you Isobel for your advice .... and valued comments

I will ensure that I 'Cheer Up', my previous poem, 'You Never Can Tell' a few days earlier had made poor Melanie Rees cry. So I must make amends although, 'Goin Down', well or otherwise, in Wigan's Bear Pit wasn't really what I had in mind.

love the bits an pieces of you xx


Gus xx

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Gus Jonsson

Sun 9th Dec 2012 10:26

Thank you Isobel and Francine for your advice .... and valued comments

I will ensure that I 'Cheer Up', my previous poem, 'You Never Can Tell' a few days earlier had made poor Melanie Rees cry. So I must make amends although, 'Goin Down', well or otherwise, in Wigan's Bear Pit wasn't really what I had in mind.

love the bits an pieces of you both xx


Gus xx

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steve pottinger

Sun 9th Dec 2012 08:08

Thanks, folks. Really glad you like it. And do feel free to post the link on facebook etc... :-)

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Francine

Sun 9th Dec 2012 00:15

YAY :-D

You already know what I think...
Do I have your permission to post on fb?

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tony sheridan

Sat 8th Dec 2012 23:19

Nice one Steve!! Take care, Tony.

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Francine

Sat 8th Dec 2012 21:50

Isobel is right, you know... so go along and have some cheer :-D

Best parts:

'Washed away in a rain of tears I extinguished love
True true love
I gave up the fight
It’s growing darker now
I’m afraid I’m losing the light'

'Where then in this cold edge of eternity lays the road to Hell?
The light has gone'

xx

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Isobel

Sat 8th Dec 2012 20:40

I'd be happier if reciting someone else's work formed just a part of the competition, or just a part of the funding.

Key stage 3 (secondary level) is already dominated by studying the work of others rather than creating your own. We'll be taking it to a new level if it now becomes all about performing that work.

English at high school has been a big let down for my 12 year old. She so misses the creative aspects of primary school. And what does the main thrust of her English report hang around? Spelling. That pretty much says it all and they have no idea what a gem they have.

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Isobel

Sat 8th Dec 2012 18:36

'nurturing the hateful hollow'

I like that expression.

Don't know how much of you is in this Thom but it is a moving piece.

If someone can recognise traits in themselves that they don't like, I think they aren't history repeating. The first step to rectifying is recognising - it just takes time and a gentle move in the right direction - and sometimes just a bit of luck.

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Isobel

Sat 8th Dec 2012 18:30

Bloody Brilliant!

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Isobel

Sat 8th Dec 2012 18:27

Well you may be losing the light Gus, but you're not losing your poetic touch. There's plenty to admire in this and I particularly like the end and the sad irony therein.

This is far too gloomy for Christmas though! Come along to the Tudor on Thursday and I'm sure we'll cheer you up - there's bound to be someone worse than you at any rate - which is always a strange comfort ;)

"Blazing crazed vile obscenities" - you aren't the secret compere by any chance???

xx

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