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Ann Foxglove

Sun 22nd May 2011 14:49

Love your stuff. Do I mis-remember (prob!) or have you published a book or got one on the go? I'll buy one if so! x

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Ann Foxglove

Sun 22nd May 2011 14:48

I think you should add "goliard" to your list of accomplishments Win! ;)

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Antony Owen

Sun 22nd May 2011 11:43

Hi Cynthia

You've a brilliant eye for detail I applaud you. I should explain that the poems I post on here are the first drafts and sometimes when I'm distilling the poems I repeat an image. I've changed the latex line in Pearls as I wanted the bones to the poem so later I could flesh it out. Editing is a huge russian doll of which I'm constantly unlayering.

Your comments are always brilliant.

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 10:15

Your poem tells a story Alan. Very many people are scarred by their past - it is one of life's great tragedies - the things we do to each other. Finding the courage to move on is the key - lost to some.

I like all the earth/physical imagery you have used and the melding of poetry into that. I also liked the poignancy of the last two lines.

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 10:00

Am not reading all the other comments or it will sway me.

I think you summed it all up in your initial verse. Justice is subjective. Then you gave me a right head ache trying to follow your very clever brain and argument. You are definitely a philosopher Cynthia!

You could look at Justice in its bigger meaning. We are all born unequal - some draw terrible straws - life is a bit of a lottery. Faith helps many to get their heads round the inequity. The idea that things will be fair or 'just' beyond the grave.

Whatever justice is meted out on Earth is man-made and as you say subjective. If anyone harmed one of my kids, I'd want to tear their balls off and exact an excruciatingly painful death. Life imprisonment would be a holiday.

Just my thoughts of the day on this nice peaceable Sunday morning in our civilized society....

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 09:47

Love the humour in this one Dave. Think you performed it at the Tudor if I'm not mistaken. It is so good to read it though cos some things go too quickly on stage - even for a french speaker LOL. Speaking of which, I think you must have more than a little knowledge just to be able to write this. Very clever ! xx

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 09:41

I'd echo what Chris said, Mike. Love poetry is so hard to write convincingly but no-one could doubt your sincerity - maybe it's the inkpen!

Having a child turns your life upside down - is so hard for many to adjust to. From my experiences with friends, time and understanding from a partner is the greatest healer. x

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 09:30

You've got me wondering what it's all about. I suppose it could be whatever appeals to the reader. To me it would be love or hope. Very original.

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Isobel

Sun 22nd May 2011 09:27

An interesting idea for a poem Tommy. My father had similar shelves. There is so much an adequate education can't teach you, also...

Good to see you back posting. I hope you are well. x

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chris stevenson

Sun 22nd May 2011 09:18

..hello Ann..thank you...(the whole poem is on the profile)..chris.

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Philipos

Sun 22nd May 2011 08:32

Thank you very much Cynthia for your words on Saving Grace your advice is always spot on and I have reworked this accordingly. Much obliged.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 22:26

Just for interest: I wasn't going to touch such a hot potato as Justice'. But the idea wouldn't let me go. I looked up the term 'justice' in several books and followed the related threads until I had two A4's full of notes. I was quite amazed at the bizarre spread, each with supportive material. This is, after all, only a short poem, but I did put a lot of thought and editting into it, to make at least a slight inroad into the shocking contradictions which I found. Writing the poem made me realize even more ambiguities about this thorny subject.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 22:12

John, this is really good, a deep and passionate portrayal with a few inspired words. The title is superb. I look forward to more of your work.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 22:04

It isn't likely that this is as obvious as it might seem at first glance. I don't know who 'Roxy' is, or what the name lampoons, or personifies ... could be anything, which is actually very appropriate. Sarah Palin does come to mind. The poem is very well done with its consistent rhyme scheme and the musical scanning. Could you possibly be referring to the famous 'sweet spot' of female genitalia which seems to be so little known?

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 21:47

I find this poem delightful. I finally picked up on the italics of 'can', and the wince of annoyance. It's never easy to consort with a know-it-all companion, especially an artsy one who talks about bluebells as 'a slide made of sky'. This piece winds about, with great imagination for one who 'barely gives the time of day' and can envisage history warring all around him. I like the 'Butterflies.....new Zealand' best. The speaker seems so young, with 'stuff' swirling in his head, so much to reconcile. And the homily to conclude is superb! I may be in outer space with this whole idea, but it did strike me in this way.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 21:25

In sex, let the bodies do the talking; they can't lie. And the listening. Perfect communication.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 21:18

Kealan, you want 'YOU'RE'. If I thought it was deliberate, I'd say nothing; but I think it's just a common mistake - which doesn't look good.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 21:09

This does come under the idea of 'horny old goat', doesn't it? Very amusing and well-maintained throughout; good pronunciation too.

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Cynthia Buell Thomas

Sat 21st May 2011 20:22

You've got your priorities straight. Enjoy your revision and the exams themselves. I do think you like a challenge. Share with us again when you are truly able.

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Lynn Dye

Sat 21st May 2011 14:18

Ha ha, much better!

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Graham Sherwood

Sat 21st May 2011 13:12

Many thanks for the kind comments on Port Isaac Dave. some pieces just write themselves. just spent a week there and the surrounds. Does Ann live near there then? Regards, Graham

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Anthony Emmerson

Sat 21st May 2011 11:44

I'd love to see/hear you sing this in the Stretford End John. I guess there are only two types of football supporters, the Manchester United fans -

and the jealous . . .

Althouigh Barcelona must be a good team to be entering two events at the same time - the Champions League Final -

and the World Diving Championships . . .

COME ON YOU REDS!

Regards,

A.E. :)

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Noetic-fret!

Fri 20th May 2011 23:46

Hi charlene, you better concentrate on your exams. But when you have the time keep your poetry interest going. we needs some ear candy every now and then. Good luck with your exams, stay well and stay safe.

Much love

Michael

xxx

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Dave Carr

Fri 20th May 2011 20:37

Googling just gives recipes.
If you put chevre chaud into the babylon 9 translator it comes back with WARM GOAT.
Which is what I thought!

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Chris Co

Fri 20th May 2011 20:21

Thought provoking in the narrow and particularly the broader sense.

Chris

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Chris Co

Fri 20th May 2011 18:56

The poem is interesting in terms of rhetoric and I think it would read well. It could be used in a discussion of the power of rhetoric and semantics. From a logical philosophical point of view there are lots of false arguments, not least the repeated use of non sequiturs.

Whether that detracts from the poem or not is subjective. For me it makes it interesting for the aforementioned reasons.

Chris

P.S

Dave- the wider discussion of justice in the context of humanity and history was not the issue in our prior discussion. The issue was justice in the context of western civilizations in the year 2011. What happened with OBL takes place int he context of that bubble and in context to what happened at Nuremberg and what happened with Saddam and with Milosevic. The issue also revolved around the nuanced difference we have between 'needs must' and 'justice'. High redefinition of the latter is a slippery slope- something I previously detailed.

I am perfectly aware of the angle you were coming from and accept that justice is far from easily definable when taking in all the lands/people and history of the world. I agree with you on that- but that wasn't the point.

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John Coopey

Fri 20th May 2011 16:03

"who often seem to use vicarious success to bolster their own fragile self-esteem, aided and abetted by a sycophantic media and international branding" - WOW!
It's a good job I wrote the poem, Dave, and not you!

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John Coopey

Fri 20th May 2011 16:00

Greg
Thanks for the comment on Fergie, Fergie. Bravery doesn't come into it; I have stupidity on my side.

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Lynn Dye

Fri 20th May 2011 15:58

Enjoyed this very much, Dave. :)
Like Ann, didn't know what a chevre chaud was, but googled it, good ol' google!

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Tommy Carroll

Fri 20th May 2011 15:46

Homer Simpson voice: '...or is it?...'

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Antony Owen

Fri 20th May 2011 14:27

Thanks for commenting on Pearls.

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Dave Bradley

Fri 20th May 2011 08:27

Enjoyed this, John. We have friends coming to stay on the weekend of the final, and the male half is a fervent Man U supporter. Not looking forward to that - can't even crow if they lose, most impolite to a guest - I'll have to actually be sympathetic if I can manage it. At least he's from Manchester, unlike most Man U supporters, who often seem to use vicarious success to bolster their own fragile self-esteem, aided and abetted by a sycophantic media and international branding. Football was so much more enjoyable when there were genuine surprises in which teams finished near or at the top of the top flight. Murdoch has a lot to answer for.

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Andy N

Fri 20th May 2011 08:09

I'm in the same boat here as Jules in particular the last two lines although you may have a few too and's in the last few lines for my personal liking..

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Andy N

Fri 20th May 2011 08:08

loved this, Kath.. You may want to think about a split from 'I fall towards the blackness of release' as there seems to me like it could benefit from splitting the stanzas there, but either way - loved it...

hope you are good x

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Andy N

Fri 20th May 2011 08:07

enjoyed this, Cynthia... was a good night @ Freed Up although it did finish very late x

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Greg Freeman

Fri 20th May 2011 07:32

Brave man, John! There are a lot of Man U fans on WOL!

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Greg Freeman

Fri 20th May 2011 07:21

Wigan or Blackpool, Dave?

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Dave Carr

Fri 20th May 2011 07:03

Thanks for comment Ann.
Happiness is a chevre chaud.

Actually I found out I was dyslexic when I went to a toga party dressed as a goat. :-)

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Dave Carr

Fri 20th May 2011 07:00

Ta :-)

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Fri 20th May 2011 04:35

I like it. It reminds me of someone who I know who I miss

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John Coopey

Thu 19th May 2011 23:11

Every time I go to the gym there's always 2 or 3 lads in MU shirts - unless they've lost; then it seems they must be in the wash!

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John Coopey

Thu 19th May 2011 22:39

This happened to me as well, Dave. I ended up with cul de sac.

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Francine

Thu 19th May 2011 22:31

What can one say?
This is quite a passionate and thought-provoking essay, Mike.
I feel for you and those who suffer mental and physical anguish.

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Ann Foxglove

Thu 19th May 2011 21:43

Oh god!! I read to the very end and then . . . what's a "chevre chaud" for gawd's sake! Je suis une idiote mais je missed the punchline! Quelle domage!

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Steve Smith

Thu 19th May 2011 21:38

Just read your stuff Cynthia and liked it- life force abundant and the words!
steve smith

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Francine

Thu 19th May 2011 20:45

Exquisite.
It can be felt like an exorcism.
I often go sit near the water to watch the sunset... and I feel so free : )

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Francine

Thu 19th May 2011 20:30

Yes - 'Justice is a moral issue'... and so dependent on one's beliefs concludes 'whose end and by what means'

I believe in Karma, so in my mind, one can never escape justice.

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Francine

Thu 19th May 2011 20:11

Cela m'a fait sourire...
Oh là là ; )

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kath hewitt

Thu 19th May 2011 19:46

like :-)

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Dave Carr

Thu 19th May 2011 18:37

Very thought provoking Dave

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